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Mystery Volcano Photo #18

Category: Class participationEruptions BlogMystery Volcano Photo
Posted on: December 7, 2009 8:53 AM, by Erik Klemetti

First snow of the season here in Granville. Huzzah!

And another reader-submitted photo for MVP. The last was submitted by VolcanoMan and was of the Ecuadorian volcano Chimborazo - the Bobs got yet another photo!

The current standings:
The Bobs - 3
Don Crain - 2
gijs - 2
Boris Behncke - 2
volcanista - 1
Lockwood - 1
Elizabeth - 1
Ralph - 1
Anne - 1
Cam - 1
gg - 1
Damon Hynes - 1
Marco - 1

Here's the new one. Good luck!
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Un volcan de cono simple en Arizona

Posted by: Manuel Humeres | December 7, 2009 9:31 AM

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Need to be a little more specific ... but thanks for the update on the seismicity at Llaima!

Posted by: Erik Klemetti | December 7, 2009 10:04 AM

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Sunset Crater AZ

Posted by: Manuel Humeres | December 7, 2009 10:10 AM

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SP Crater, AZ.

Posted by: PeakVT | December 7, 2009 10:40 AM

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Well, it's a cinder cone... and from the scarp in the background I would guess that it is in the Great Rift Valley somewhere. I would guess Ethiopia, Kenya or Tanzania. But that is as close as I can get at the moment. :-)

Posted by: Don Crain | December 7, 2009 11:16 AM

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Amboy?

Posted by: Watcher | December 7, 2009 11:39 AM

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I'm not even going to attempt this one. There are hundreds of simple cinder cones like this round the world, many of them almost identical. The sparse vegetation would suggest a fairly arid area, but that could be in the western USA, Ethiopia, Mexico/Baja California or the high Andes for starters.

Posted by: mike don | December 7, 2009 11:55 AM

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I don't think it is SP, I would have expected to see more of the flow in the picture if it was SP. So my guess is Merriam Cone, Arizona. I do believe it is in the US desert southwest.

Posted by: S Singer | December 7, 2009 12:17 PM

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I am going to go with Antelope Hill, AZ.

Posted by: Doug C. | December 7, 2009 2:47 PM

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Sunset Crater. That's Coconino Plateau in the background, and the picture is taken from the road to Lockett Meadow. Nice to be able to finally identify one of them, simply because I lived there for 12 years!

Posted by: OmegaMom | December 7, 2009 2:48 PM

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Since someone has already guessed Sunset Crater in Arizona ... I'll go with my secondary guess: the cinder cone at Veyo, Utah.

Posted by: Cam | December 7, 2009 2:54 PM

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Ack! I take it back. Not Sunset Crater.

Posted by: OmegaMom | December 7, 2009 2:55 PM

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Schonchin Butte, CA?

Posted by: Andrea Di Piazza | December 7, 2009 4:53 PM

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Somewhere out west I would go with Capultin Mountain. I know that may not be spelled just right.

Posted by: Chance Metz | December 7, 2009 5:07 PM

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Ooooh, tough...gonna go with a cinder cone on the flank of Mauna Loa, Hawaii. The fault scarp in the background looks like the result of rift zone extension on a shield volcano. Plus, the vegetation looks like Hawaii.

Mike Don is right though, cinder cones are everywhere; to find one this symmetrical is less common, but there are probably still 100s of examples. There are what could be other cones to the right, but even that doesn't narrow things down; both shield volcanoes and monogenetic fields can have multiple cinder cones. Even my inference that the fault scarp = part of a shield volcano isn't necessarily true. It could be part of a continental rift zone, or even be the slopes of a caldera system, not a scarp at all.

Posted by: VolcanoMan | December 7, 2009 7:09 PM

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Two more guesses Bald Knoll and Sand Mountain. They both look very similar and they are in the desert southwest where it looks like this photo may be from,or not! This one is not easy to figure out.

Posted by: Chance Metz | December 7, 2009 7:19 PM

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Whoops, meant to say Mauna Kea; only Mauna Kea has that kind of cliff topography in the saddle zone between Loa and Kea which is what this looks like to me.

Posted by: VolcanoMan | December 7, 2009 7:20 PM

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Just great, I finally get to see the picture before half of the planet has already seen that/done that/went to bed, and it's a cinder cone. With rare exception if you have seen one cinder cone, you have seen them all. Mt. Capulin it isn't - no road spiral and not high enough. Sunset Crater it isn't - wrong color. After a little Google Earth work I'll stick my neck out and say "Amboy Crater" Never been there, but there is a vague resemblance between your picture and one of those flickr photos.

Posted by: Kver | December 7, 2009 11:13 PM

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Been a long time since I've been out there but it is likely one of the other features near the Sunset Crater area. I remember Strawberry, Antelope, Colton, Maroon, Rattlesnake, Black Bottom, Haywire, SP, Stewart, Moon, Double, Pinnacle, Cochrane, N & S Sheba, and Merriam craters? Missouri Bill Hill? No, that doesn't have a closed crater, neither does Merrill. It could be Merriam and it looks to be that size; but I'm going to go with either Black Bottom or Roden, since they are further north.

Black Bottom Crater

Posted by: Lynn David | December 7, 2009 11:20 PM

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It looks to me like a cinder cone I found in the San Francisco Volcanic Field. It is about 3.75 miles SW of SP Crater, but I can't find a name for it.

Posted by: The Bobs | December 8, 2009 12:09 AM

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Antelope Hill Cinder Cone, Arizona

Posted by: Don Crain | December 8, 2009 9:12 AM

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Wow, we may have a stumper here -- admittedly a scoria cone can be a little hard to uniquely identify. Any last guesses? (hint, someone here said the name but then rejected it).

Posted by: Erik Klemetti | December 8, 2009 9:35 AM

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OK I'll go with SP. I Think I see the flow in the background.

Posted by: dasnowskier | December 8, 2009 10:01 AM

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I'll try, I say Missouri Bill Hill

Posted by: Guillermo | December 8, 2009 10:13 AM

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I think The Bobs is right it is a the cinder cone 3.75 miles SW west of SP Crater (35 32 N 111 41 W) can't find the name. I think the picture id taken from the SW.

Posted by: Marco | December 8, 2009 10:27 AM

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Marco: I agree with you and The Bobs. When I did a google search on "topographic map SP Crater" one of the resulting links was http://www.trails.com/topomap_beta.aspx?trailid=HGS167-021

If you zoom out a ways on the topographic map you can see the cone 3.75 miles SW of SP Crater, labeled "Antelope Hill"

Posted by: Don Crain | December 8, 2009 10:37 AM

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This is interesting. The sender of the photo identified the cone as Missouri Bill Hill ... however, after staring at Google Earth for a while, I'm pretty convinced its not MBH, but rather the small cone just to the NE of MBH (I believe it would be the cone identified by the Bobs.) I may have to do some more investigating (and you can to) to resolve this ...

Posted by: Erik Klemetti | December 8, 2009 10:49 AM

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Erik,

I believe Missouri Bill Hill is incorrect. If you look at Missouri Bill Hill on google earth, it has a very asymmetrical crater rim. The northeast rim of the crater is more than 200 feet higher then the SW rim. The photo shows a cinder cone with a very even crater rim with no prominent high points. Further, the crater of Missouri Bill Hill is overall much deeper than the shallow saucer-like crater of the cone in the photograph. Also, the features of the vegetation and gullies on the south side of Antelope Hill closely match those in the photo.

Posted by: Don Crain | December 8, 2009 10:59 AM

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I took the picture, and after checking on Google earth and rechecking the coconino NF map, I think Don Crain is correct. The picture was taken at approx 35 degrees, 28 min, 24.9 sec N and 111 degrees 42 min 59.3 sec W, from the rim of a large unnamed crater looking north. The escarpment in the background is Gray mtn, SP crater is visible from the location but father east and north among several other cones. Antelope Hill lines up better with Gray mtn than Missouri Bill Hill from that location and is more consistent with the shape of the cone in the picture. MBH is actually obscured by trees in the pictures I took that day. My apologies for the mistake. My hat is off to the folks who were able to identify the area and the possible cones from a very generic cinder cone.
Bill

Posted by: DVMKurmes | December 8, 2009 12:38 PM

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I agree with Don Crain, it looks like Antelope Hill is the name. I believe that the photo was taken from the rim of another cone that is due south of Antelope Hill. I was able to get a very close match with the photo by manipulating the viewpoint in Google Earth, including the dark hill on the right edge of the photo, which I think is SP hill.

Posted by: The Bobs | December 8, 2009 12:43 PM

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Wow.,this one was really a tough one,I think it is safe to say this is the haredest one ever!

Posted by: Chance Metz | December 8, 2009 3:05 PM

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So it looks like Doug C. got it first at reply #10. Another new winner. Congratulations Doug!

Nice to see a challenging search. I enjoyed the hunt!

Posted by: Ron Schott | December 8, 2009 4:18 PM

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It does in fact appear that Doug C. got it way back at #9 ... congrats.

Current Standings:
The Bobs - 3
Don Crain - 2
gijs - 2
Boris Behncke - 2
volcanista - 1
Lockwood - 1
Elizabeth - 1
Ralph - 1
Anne - 1
Cam - 1
gg - 1
Damon Hynes - 1
Marco - 1
Doug C. - 1

Posted by: Erik Klemetti | December 8, 2009 4:27 PM

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In fact, I say the 'correct' answer using the hint, but when I looked for images, none of them appeared like the MVP to me. It was only guessing.

I deserve at least 0,5 points!!

Posted by: Guillermo | December 8, 2009 9:03 PM

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DANG! I've climbed Chimborazo and didn't recognize it. Probably affected by the altitude at the time. Several volcanoes have erupted after I climbed them [St. Helens, Popocatepetl, Tungurahua, etc....maybe I should be paid not to climb dormant volcanoes? Just a thought.

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