ferret-badger https://www.scienceblogs.com/ en Counting animals: written in blood? https://www.scienceblogs.com/stoat/2012/05/06/counting-animals-written-in-bl <span>Counting animals: written in blood?</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><img src="http://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/290-width/images/2012/05/articles/main/20120505_STP002.jpg" width="100" align="right" /> Interesting article from <a href="http://www.economist.com/node/21554172">The Economist</a> science section about establishing the presence of shy animals in rainforests by examining leech blood.</p> <p>A highlight comes from one of my relatives:</p> <blockquote><p>They also found genetic material from the... small-toothed ferret-badger, which is (apparently) impossible to distinguish from the related Burmese ferret-badger without getting close enough to handle it.</p></blockquote> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/stoat" lang="" about="/author/stoat" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stoat</a></span> <span>Sun, 05/06/2012 - 01:22</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/misc" hreflang="en">Misc</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ferret-badger" hreflang="en">ferret-badger</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/leech" hreflang="en">leech</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773983" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336331116"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is interesting and relevant ...</p> <p>An internal study by the U.S. EPA completed by Dr. Alan Carlin and John Davidson concluded the IPCC was wrong about global warming. One statement in the executive summary stated that a 2009 paper found that the crucial assumption in the Greenhouse Climate Models (GCM) used by the IPCC concerning a strong positive feedback from water vapor is not supported by empirical evidence and that the feedback is actually negative. Water vapor in the atmosphere causes a cooling effect, not a warming one. Carbon dioxide also causes a slight cooling effect but it so small it could never be measured by man's instrumentation. </p> <p>EPA tried to bury the report. An email from Al McGartland, Office Director of EPAâs National Center for Environmental Economics (NCEE), to Dr. Alan Carlin, Senior Operations Research Analyst at NCEE, forbade him from speaking to anyone outside NCEE on endangerment issues. In a March 17 email from McGartland to Carlin, stated that he will not forward Carlinâs study. âThe time for such discussion of fundamental issues has passed for this round. The administrator (Lisa Jackson) and the administration have decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision. â¦. I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office.â A second email from McGartland stated âI donât want you to spend any additional EPA time on climate change.â </p> <p>McGartlandâs emails demonstrate that he was rejecting Dr. Carlinâs study because its conclusions ran counter to the EPAâs current position. Yet this study had its basis in three prior reports by Carlin (two in 2007 and one in 2008) that were accepted. Another government cover-up, just what the United States does not need.</p> <p>Eliminate this regulation immediately. This is a scientific tragedy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773983&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="eK8SFWwOkelcJns-OLr4OnQqcpwnMVcGiniqtgRYcxY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Graham Thompson (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773983">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773984" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336810596"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's a presence/absence indicator at best, and even at that, a time-limited one, albeit better than none at all. As the article says, it's a "proof of concept" and that concept is whether or not blood DNA of various animals survives for any length of time in the host. As is usual in the popular media, The Economist screws up the meaning in their headline, because such analyses cannot by themselves give a count of the prey base. The PCR DNA amplification process precludes that entirely.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773984&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aMs0J1bVSR05fjzNRRH2405FdB-ouu4Pde0RAQb908Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/bouldin/index.htm" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jim Bouldin (not verified)</a> on 12 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773984">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773985" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336311793"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>None the less, all Burmese frettchendachshunds know the difference.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773985&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="gu0ASFArYGYq5IRgrzwFCrZ1N5JN2ZScsHez3Q9-clg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Russell (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773985">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773986" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336330960"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is interesting and relevant ...</p> <p>An internal study by the U.S. EPA completed by Dr. Alan Carlin and John Davidson concluded the IPCC was wrong about global warming. </p> <p>[Its clearly not relevant. This is a blog very largely about GW and yet you picked one of the few non-GW to put your spam into.</p> <p>As to interesting: your nonsense was <a href="http://deepclimate.org/2009/06/28/epas-alan-carlin-channels-pat-michaels-and-the-friends-of-science/">ripped apart by DC ages ago</a> -W]</p> <p>One statement in the executive summary stated that a 2009 paper found that the crucial assumption in the Greenhouse Climate Models (GCM) used by the IPCC concerning a strong positive feedback from water vapor</p> <p>[Oh come on, we aren't children here. Go peddle this twaddle at WUWT or somewhere where they believe that the WV feedback is deliberately built into GCMs. It isn't; it just naturally emerges -W]</p> <p>is not supported by empirical evidence and that the feedback is actually negative. Water vapor in the atmosphere causes a cooling effect, not a warming one. Carbon dioxide also causes a slight cooling effect but it so small it could never be measured by man's instrumentation. </p> <p>EPA tried to bury the report. An email from Al McGartland, Office Director of EPAâs National Center for Environmental Economics (NCEE), to Dr. Alan Carlin, Senior Operations Research Analyst at NCEE, forbade him from speaking to anyone outside NCEE on endangerment issues. In a March 17 email from McGartland to Carlin, stated that he will not forward Carlinâs study. âThe time for such discussion of fundamental issues has passed for this round. The administrator (Lisa Jackson) and the administration have decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision. â¦. I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office.â A second email from McGartland stated âI donât want you to spend any additional EPA time on climate change.â </p> <p>McGartlandâs emails demonstrate that he was rejecting Dr. Carlinâs study because its conclusions ran counter to the EPAâs current position. Yet this study had its basis in three prior reports by Carlin (two in 2007 and one in 2008) that were accepted. Another government cover-up, just what the United States does not need.</p> <p>Eliminate this regulation immediately. This is a scientific tragedy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773986&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="o8oYIZkw-MPRwuja1r9_uadVVqDh47N1dZvTv5oy_aQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Graham Thompson (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773986">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773987" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336350736"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Makes a change from the boring trees and flowers at JEB. A nice hungry leech to start the day.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773987&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iin0UUcbqbay85UWLkIodFtF8mQH_8YhBPQbvP9nmPc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Harry (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773987">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773988" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336354242"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Alan Carlin, David Schare, what other EPA folk are charging the US government for their moonlighting activities?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773988&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6a7WKWaXjmi0PLTgiYQw9cUqQO14PkzKL0iZFzPfQlA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://rabett.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eli Rabett (not verified)</a> on 06 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773988">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773989" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336360511"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Water vapor in the atmosphere causes a cooling effect"</p> <p>ROFLMAO.</p> <p>Also: this leech study is awesome.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773989&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pPtr6soB_XK18DCTuUlWCQgWcaeKTiNEl0OvJQ8HtZo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Nick Barnes (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773989">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773990" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336393251"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>#4 Eli</p> <p>Carlin retired some time ago. But the log of his external communication in his last few months at the EPA would be interesting.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773990&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6gpk6wIqIE8lAeU2z-aTbq5in05Vle_tLP_4LftbQso"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://deepclimate.org" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Deep Climate (not verified)</a> on 07 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773990">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773991" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336413906"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Water vapor in the atmosphere causes a cooling effect"</p> <p>ROFLMAO. +1</p> <p>Also: this leech study is awesome. +2</p> <p>When I first saw this study it left me slack-jawed in admiration. One of those Brilliant! moments. So obvious when you think about it once it's done - but it takes near-genius to actually _think_ of it in the first place.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773991&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pzqZeLcFf6LvfJAGtH54X-iY9gYL5DQ189luv8zQZu4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">adelady (not verified)</span> on 07 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773991">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773992" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336548645"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The leech study is fascinating, reminiscent of the concept is Jurassic Park, mosquitos in that case.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773992&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SVWhEB6TNjtr8Ko4UWoy3iJoGuNdw-2JZgAmEE-1pfE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Phil. (not verified)</span> on 09 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773992">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1773993" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1336810351"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's a presence/absence indicator at best, and even at that, a time-limited one, albeit better than none at all. As the article says, it's a "proof of concept" and that concept is whether or not blood DNA of various animals survives for any length of time in the host. As is usual in the popular media, The Economist screws up the meaning in their headline, because such analyses cannot by themselves give a count of the prey base. The PCR DNA amplification process precludes that entirely.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1773993&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="YPOiTHyqciMhhIoCdfUpM8XOavj7ogbu3QGx3N5PVDM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.plantsciences.ucdavis.edu/bouldin/index.htm" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jim Bouldin (not verified)</a> on 12 May 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/12169/feed#comment-1773993">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/stoat/2012/05/06/counting-animals-written-in-bl%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Sun, 06 May 2012 05:22:35 +0000 stoat 53368 at https://www.scienceblogs.com