wishful thinking https://www.scienceblogs.com/ en Pursuing Woo in Africa https://www.scienceblogs.com/seed/2012/10/12/pursuing-woo-in-africa <span>Pursuing Woo in Africa</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/63794459@N07/6542646355/"><img class="alignleft" title="Flickr" src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7029/6542646355_cf9600b0b7.jpg" alt="" width="178" height="300" /></a>Alexander Pope wrote "Hope springs eternal in the human breast," but cancer isn't far behind.  Yet when hope springs, it can lead the sick to the unproven, to more dire disease, and death.  On Respectful Insolence, Orac tells the stories of two women—one Kenyan, one American—who <a title="One more example of the price of refusing science-based cancer therapy" href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/10/10/one-more-example-of-the-price-of-refusing-science-based-cancer-therapy/" target="_blank">avoided modern treatment</a> for their breast cancers.  Orac writes, "Neglected tumors like this often bleed or rot—or both. It’s truly horrible to behold, and at this point there is nothing a surgeon can do except to recommend local wound care and hope that the chemotherapy works."  Sometimes it's not too late.  And sometimes even the earliest cancer is <a title="No Cure for Cancer" href="http://scienceblogs.com/seed/2011/12/06/no-cure-for-cancer/" target="_blank">a foregone conclusion</a>.  But in between, making an informed decision can save your life.  Meanwhile, on ERV, Abbie Smith writes that Gambian president Yahya Jammeh <a title="HIV-cure-woo alive and well in Africa" href="http://scienceblogs.com/erv/2012/10/09/hiv-cure-woo-alive-and-well-in-africa/" target="_blank">claims to have cured</a> sixty-eight patients of HIV and AIDS with his "secret pot of herbs."  Jammeh promises to integrate natural "medicine" into all the nation's hospitals.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/milhayser" lang="" about="/author/milhayser" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">milhayser</a></span> <span>Fri, 10/12/2012 - 06:25</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cancer" hreflang="en">cancer</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/hiv" hreflang="en">hiv</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/wishful-thinking" hreflang="en">wishful thinking</a></div> </div> </div> <section> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/seed/2012/10/12/pursuing-woo-in-africa%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:25:37 +0000 milhayser 69151 at https://www.scienceblogs.com Not Enough to Swallow https://www.scienceblogs.com/seed/2012/03/01/not-enough-to-swallow <span>Not Enough to Swallow</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><form mt:asset-id="18328" class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlesonflickr/3926259585/"><img align="left" src="http://scienceblogs.com/sample/medbuzz.jpg" class="inset" style="" /></a></form> <p>On Denialism Blog, Mark Hoofnagle writes that a wide array of drugs, from antibiotics to steroids to diuretics and chemotherapeutics, are in <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2012/02/drug_shortages_reveal_the_free.php">short supply around the country</a>. Hoofnagle explains, "The drugs affected span all classes, what they have in common is they are all generic." Because of the low profit margin on generic drugs, "manufacturers try to cut costs where they can, they export production abroad (and away from FDA oversight), and keep supplies low." Quality suffers, and with only a few companies producing certain drugs, disruptions can have far-reaching (and deleterious) effects. Should government subsidize the manufacture of generic medicine, or take it away from the free market? On Respectful Insolence, Orac covers a far simpler course of treatment: wishing, and hoping, and thinking, and praying. New studies show that alternative medicine is <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/02/placebo_versus_the_law_of_attraction.php">no more effective than a placebo</a>, but one advocate says the placebo effect is proof of the Law of Attraction. Maybe surgical patients can just visualize more anaesthetic? Finally, Abbie Smith cannot believe that the FDA has granted expedited approval for a daily pill to <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/erv/2012/02/the_pill_for_hiv_a_bad_idea_ac.php">protect against HIV infection</a>. Smith writes that in large clinical trials, "Tenofovir didnt work well at all [...] There is *no* experimental evidence to suggest that is a good idea right now." The drug could actually lead to <i>more</i> new infections—and cause permanent kidney damage.</p> <ul> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2012/02/drug_shortages_reveal_the_free.php">Drug Shortages Reveal the Free Market is Failing Our Sickest Patients</a> on Denialism Blog</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2012/02/placebo_versus_the_law_of_attraction.php">Placebo versus the Law of Attraction</a> on Respectful Insolence</li> <li><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/erv/2012/02/the_pill_for_hiv_a_bad_idea_ac.php">The Pill for HIV: A bad idea, actually</a> on ERV</li> <p><i>Posted to <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/">the homepage</a> on February 17, 2012.</i></p> </ul> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/milhayser" lang="" about="/author/milhayser" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">milhayser</a></span> <span>Thu, 03/01/2012 - 03:56</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/hiv" hreflang="en">hiv</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/pharmaceuticals" hreflang="en">Pharmaceuticals</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/wishful-thinking" hreflang="en">wishful thinking</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1899879" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1330596852"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The government should stockpile essential meds and do it with an eye toward stabilizing markets and moderate prices, eliminate shortages, and maintain sufficient stocks to deal with large scale disasters. I suspect that a market that was made more stable and regularized would be attractive to generic drug manufacturers as wild fluctuation are disruptive to low margin businesses. </p> <p>We already do this, to some extent, with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The intent in both cases would be to knock the edges off any major price or supply shock and to have enough on hand to handle national emergencies. </p> <p>A Fukashima scale event on the west coast could easily fill every hospital bed and see shortages of even the most basic medications.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1899879&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5kcRHQtAuCC0LsP6xmYF8bouY8AhIRYLyXdxlTe1ifI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Art (not verified)</span> on 01 Mar 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-1899879">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1899880" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1330639931"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Does this mean iatrogenic deaths are about to go down?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1899880&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JwmoB4PZnBLWDQaFKCNn7UiCE2wGyYHisvbdwnl3e2Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Witch (not verified)</span> on 01 Mar 2012 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-1899880">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1899881" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1331515325"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Please write an article about:</p> <p><a href="http://www.acancer.info/">http://www.acancer.info/</a></p> <p>Thanks!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" 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+0000 milhayser 69116 at https://www.scienceblogs.com Atheism: In Your Own Words https://www.scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2010/06/13/atheism-in-your-own-words <span>Atheism: In Your Own Words</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p><span style="font-size: 10px">tags: <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/Atheism:+In+Your+Own+Words" rel="tag">Atheism: In Your Own Words</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/The+Thinking+Atheist" rel="tag">The Thinking Atheist</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/atheism" rel="tag">atheism</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/humanism" rel="tag">humanism</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/rationalism" rel="tag">rationalism</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/religion" rel="tag">religion</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/cults" rel="tag">cults</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/self+delusion" rel="tag">self delusion</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/fantasy+life" rel="tag">fantasy life</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/wishful+thinking" rel="tag">wishful thinking</a>, <a target="window" href="http://technorati.com/tag/streaming+video" rel="tag">streaming video</a></span></p> <p>Realizing that you are an atheist is a profound, personal experience. This video records the stories (in their own words) of some people who came to the realization that they are atheists.</p> <!--more--><object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_hWMFC_pngo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0" /><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_hWMFC_pngo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;showinfo=0" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object></div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/grrlscientist" lang="" about="/author/grrlscientist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">grrlscientist</a></span> <span>Sat, 06/12/2010 - 23:59</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ethics" hreflang="en">ethics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/godlessness" hreflang="en">godlessness</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/politics" hreflang="en">Politics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/your-inner-child" hreflang="en">your inner child</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/atheism" hreflang="en">Atheism</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/atheism-your-own-words" hreflang="en">Atheism: In Your Own Words</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cults" hreflang="en">cults</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fantasy-life" hreflang="en">fantasy life</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/humanism" hreflang="en">humanism</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/rationalism" hreflang="en">rationalism</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/self-delusion" hreflang="en">self delusion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-video" hreflang="en">streaming video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/thinking-atheist" hreflang="en">The Thinking Atheist</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/video" hreflang="en">Video</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/wishful-thinking" hreflang="en">wishful thinking</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/cultural-observation" hreflang="en">cultural observation</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/ethics" hreflang="en">ethics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/godlessness" hreflang="en">godlessness</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/politics" hreflang="en">Politics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/religion-0" hreflang="en">religion</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/streaming-videos" hreflang="en">streaming videos</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/your-inner-child" hreflang="en">your inner child</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2075894" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1276407494"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I am not be able to describe the path I took that has led me to be an atheist as these people have done. I suspect that is because I never believed even though I pretended, just as I pretended there was a tooth fairy and a santa claus.</p> <p>Pretending is a lot of fun as a child. And the pretense (in my case) was shared with my parents as far as fairies and elves were concerned. </p> <p>Religion was a bit different, but my parents felt no need to "protect" me from different views. I went to catechism with my Catholic friend, to Mormon youth groups with my Mormon friend, and to Baptist vacation bible school with my Baptist friend. </p> <p>First, I wondered why my friend's parents were not so willing to let my friends attend various religious events that my church offered.</p> <p>Then I began to wonder how anyone could tell which of the various interpretations of "the Word" might be right.</p> <p>And then... I began to think that perhaps it was "the Word" that was at fault because it could be interpreted in so many different and exclusive ways.</p> <p>At that point I decided that all religions were man-made, whether there was a God or not. Following that I decided that it made no difference to mankind in any way whether there was or was not a God. </p> <p>Now, rather than bog myself down in refuting bits and pieces of religious writings, I only ask believers "why would a God act as if he were a human?"</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2075894&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="UvrmKmuWp0wjTEra5ycJHeLCuaib4hJ7OOdrEkL62j4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://opiningonline.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Donna B. (not verified)</a> on 13 Jun 2010 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-2075894">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2075895" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1276412987"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I realized at a pretty young age that most religious belief was "just pretend," and that I couldn't pretend so well to myself.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2075895&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="HearznP0cFml6JbtAtLUYLc30lDUVrebAXLjcXKmQfc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://rturpin.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Russell (not verified)</a> on 13 Jun 2010 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-2075895">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2075896" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1276433659"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>No, actually it isn`t a deeply profound or affecting experience, not for all of us. I never fit in anywhere, my entire damned life. I tried everything, I followed my religious gadfly of a mother back and forth between various sects of Christianity, to traditional Islam, to Nation of Islam, went to college and tried sects of Christianity we don`t have up here; gave up on that and tried Buddhism, tried solo spiritualities, started taking religious classes in order to try and figure out if I was just missing the point somewhere, tried out several types of neo-pagan worship and at the end of it all? I just don`t care. Not only did I/do I not care, I got sick and tired of pretending. It irritates me to no end that everyone seems to assume that some profound and life changing moment came along, some metaphysical eureka moment when I decided that I didn`t believe. I grew up with an unbeliever, she`s just too fucking conditioned and afraid to admit it, even to herself. Maybe for her it would be one of these deeply moving, personal moments, so bound up in the cultural norms of her childhood as she is, but for me? And for many other athiests like me? Not so much, and it would really be nice if all of you who are oh so wise in the ways of oh so many athiests would stop trying to tell us all about how the hell we feel about it all!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2075896&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="qfGMD2_BrlE5qMW9HGH24_bj1gz1qNYd6RqlkuYPMZg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Kate from Iowa (not verified)</span> on 13 Jun 2010 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-2075896">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2075897" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1276434064"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Donna B.<br /> I had a similar experience. I asked why God would punish the crimes of mass murder and petty theft equally, since they certainly seem to be on different levels to me.<br /> I was told, "God is so far above us that the differences are meaningless. Would you make a distinction between theft and murder if two worms did these crimes?" My answer was "yes", but I got his point.<br /> I applied this "God/us=us/worms" to the "Word of God'. How can any book be the word of God? A worm would have no ability to begin to transcribe any portion of the "Word of Man", so how could we possible consider any book to be the "Word of God"? We would not be able to read or comprehend one iota of such a book.<br /> This explained why all religions have the same basis in fact, and why there are so many contradictory explanations of even the same book. The books are all made up by men pretending to have the "Word of God". Other bits of evidence were the beliefs and behaviors of those suffering mental illnesses, and that many believers do not actually act as if they take their beliefs seriously. They also refuse to answer logical questions, if you take them far enough, and then fall back on ad hominem arguments and threats to support their point.<br /> The realization that religion is, at best, a collection of philosophical metaphors lead to the realization that it is all made by men, and that it is not what it claims to be, hence it is a lie. Religious practices may be useful and have some beneficial effects, but the foundation is false.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2075897&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZRtL-Y3r6L4adPiALqO5h45il0E7IxxX_A0Td4JV5M8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Aaron (not verified)</span> on 13 Jun 2010 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-2075897">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2075898" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1276437090"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Advice to people who make these things, adding music over voice: Stop.</p> <p>It would be easier to hear the speaker if the music were replaced by equally-loud static noise because we can easily hear through the static. Music is structured and therefore voice-like: it is correlated noise, which trips up any signal processing. Trying to listen to a speaker while trying to ignore the music is like trying to listen to someone important while some brat chatters away loudly and incessantly.</p> <p>Have you not figured out why the band stops playing before the President gives his speech?</p> <p>I quit that video less than a minute in. That music is as offensive and rude as the crap they shove in our ears during TV commercials.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2075898&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9PBCNObzPJxHSUKKfHKKOctdChzV-VhbeCpUcahYN50"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Grackle (not verified)</span> on 13 Jun 2010 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-2075898">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2075899" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1276444243"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Realizing that you are an atheist is a profound, personal experience."</p> <p>Especially if it doesn't disturb one's psychological position at the center of the universe, apparently.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2075899&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Aj8CnVZf5dXIkLI2MB2iLWSs5ANf8X4wdel6JvZruFM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Otto (not verified)</span> on 13 Jun 2010 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/17375/feed#comment-2075899">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/grrlscientist/2010/06/13/atheism-in-your-own-words%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:59:34 +0000 grrlscientist 90936 at https://www.scienceblogs.com