Jet Crash https://www.scienceblogs.com/ en What kind of toxic chemcials would you be worried about from that jet crash in San Diego? https://www.scienceblogs.com/angrytoxicologist/2008/12/09/what-kind-of-toxic-chemcials-w <span>What kind of toxic chemcials would you be worried about from that jet crash in San Diego?</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You've probably heard that a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-18">F/A-18D</a> jet <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/08/AR2008120802438.html">crashed in San Diego on approach to Miramar</a>, killing 3 on the ground (the pilot ejected and is fine). A lot of the news reports noted that ~20 homes were evacuated due to 'toxic chemicals'. What sort of chemicals would you be worried about?</p> <p><strong>First Responders and Bystanders</strong></p> <p>Beyond the physical hazards (things under pressure like hydraulics, O2 canisters,...etc), there's all kinds of stuff to worry about like fuel, oils, hydraulic fluids, beryllium, lithium, chromium, mercury, and possibly radioactive compounds. But the biggest hazard is simply the burning of Advanced Composite Materials (ACM). According to the military, aircraft can contain anywhere from about 175-33,000 lbs of ACM. Upon burning, a lot of these Advanced Composite Materials release lots of carbon monoxide (obviously), nitrous oxides, sulfur dioxide, and hydrogen cyanide. An air craft explosion could produce these chemicals above levels that would kill you in short order as long as the temp was above 300 deg F. The F-18 has a lot of Graphite-epoxy ACM which is probably better short term than if an Apache helicopter crashed due to the kevlar/graphite-epoxy used on that aircraft. So, in short, you're most worried about death from CO or cyanide poisoning. After that you'd worry about the more exotic stuff, but it's not likely that you'd be exposed to this junk after the crash so it's not as big of a concern.</p> <p><strong>Clean-up crew</strong></p> <p>The Clean-up crew would have to think about all the exotic chemicals abounding but would not have to worry so much about the CO/NO/SO/CN issues. They would, however, have to worry about all the respirable fibers that may be floating around due to the ACM. Particularly troubling are the boron-epoxies since they are able to penetrate protection to some degree. These fibers cause long-lasting harm if inhaled in sufficient amounts.</p> <p><strong>Bonus explainer: How do you respond to an aviation crash?</strong></p> <p>If we're talking about you the citizen, the answer is to stay inside, close all windows, doors or other air intakes and wait for instruction. If you're talking about the responders, they evacuate the area around the crash and smoke plume, and cool the crash site down while trying not to break apart the plane further with high pressure. They do not use aircraft (such as helicopters) around a crash because it disperses the chemicals downward and in an unpredictable manner. Once they've identified the immediate hazards (always using proper industrial hygiene, of course), they spray a fixicant like acrylic floor wax over the crash to keep fibers and chemicals where they are.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/author/angrytoxicologist" lang="" about="/author/angrytoxicologist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">angrytoxicologist</a></span> <span>Tue, 12/09/2008 - 02:26</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/toxics" hreflang="en">Toxics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/chemicals" hreflang="en">chemicals</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/jet-crash" hreflang="en">Jet Crash</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/toxic" hreflang="en">toxic</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493159" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1228812755"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Acrylic floor wax? I always love finding out that people do super techincal stuff with something bought at home depot. It makes sense; it's just hilarious.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493159&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-zyjyXYucXjR9029Ule-m4H_ye7LD3Fxy00-BUn7kw4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Darkhorse (not verified)</span> on 09 Dec 2008 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493159">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="184" id="comment-2493160" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1228813457"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><b>"...would kill you in short order as long as the temp was above 300 deg F."</b></p> <p>Why is this? Because more of the potentially lethal compounds would be vaporized and therefore subject to inhalation?</p> <p>Also, I never would have guessed carbon dioxide had the ability to kill people in an open space, or by simply wafting into their homes (in which case the home is by definition an open space of sorts). I've been conditioned by knowing only of CO fatalities that have either been intentional (in someone's garage) or incidental in a closed house (a leak the resident never knew about).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493160&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kR_lfLwcBCrR5t7D66m4gSU4bW_K5hEwA2bKqyb-N1Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/kbeck" lang="" about="/author/kbeck" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">kbeck</a> on 09 Dec 2008 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493160">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/kbeck"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/kbeck" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="305" id="comment-2493161" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1228823281"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Above 300 deg is around what you'd have to be at to produce enough of the gasses to harm someone at the site itself. So you're right but it's both production than volitization.</p> <p>As to the CO, you're right in the ways that people commonly die from it but even in those cases the levels don't have to be that high. 500 ppm can kill you and depending on what type of heat source it is, the CO levels will far exceed that (5,000 ppm will probably kill you pretty fast). </p> <p>But it's really the combination with CN that's particularly leathal. This is because 1) CN is potent and 2) they both effect cellular respiration so the toxicity is synergistic, not just additive (CO by making oxygen unavailable to the cells, and CN by not allowing electron transfer to oxygen, thereby shutting down aerobic respiration).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493161&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JrwMSveBDguddoi5Kw82Zd8hWAHi48rjyDXvo312cSc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/author/angrytoxicologist" lang="" about="/author/angrytoxicologist" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">angrytoxicologist</a> on 09 Dec 2008 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493161">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/author/angrytoxicologist"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/author/angrytoxicologist" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493162" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1230831302"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>thanks..good blog</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493162&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="nBvL9L7g29KhhxfRJ9NMZqZR8ibNJ_KsR6k9ywxtpCw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.sporlive.org" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">spor haberleri (not verified)</a> on 01 Jan 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493162">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493163" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1234689270"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>hello thanks admın very good blog</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493163&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1X72VNSdAomKNbq5ImuGloxOBojPiQ6S2xeMkIOmI3s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.iyiturk.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">netlog (not verified)</a> on 15 Feb 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493163">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493164" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1234693612"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Very Thanks</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493164&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tPZKIsRn5Rrj-dQrZZRlLECkl3xyM8xe1NTWiRXhzoA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.seslikalite.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Sesli Sohbet (not verified)</a> on 15 Feb 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493164">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493165" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1237411228"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Thx.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493165&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cAagerlSxN341WyPpGdEqhYZd9DF0H68EmTvQtE2BE4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cetmuhabbet.net" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">muhabbet (not verified)</a> on 18 Mar 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493165">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img 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href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493166">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493167" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1240654874"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>So, in short, you're most worried about death from CO or cyanide poisoning. After that you'd worry about the more exotic stuff, but it's not likely that you'd be exposed to this junk after the crash so it's not as big of a concern.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493167&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iIn6Jp1X6ShVRUp67yVmPYxAd_FVlti-PJ0nOB9oFj0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.magicsacekimi.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sac ekimi (not verified)</a> on 25 Apr 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493167">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493168" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1251537299"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Is it really that much toxication? <a href="http://shqip-muzik-mp3.blogspot.com/2008/11/video-shqip.html">Video Shqip</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493168&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ztKidrhdO1uR-1b4YnVE1IPftGmGBz0IjWwnAo_LmLI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://shqip-muzik-mp3.blogspot.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">mp3 shqip (not verified)</a> on 29 Aug 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493168">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493169" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1259614531"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>But it's really the combination with CN that's particularly leathal. This is because 1) CN is potent and 2) they both effect cellular respiration so the toxicity is synergistic, not just additive (CO by making oxygen unavailable to the cells, and CN by not allowing electron transfer to oxygen, thereby shutting down aerobic respiration).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493169&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="sVhlnecQ1-vXs7LRF970x93R_js0MiqGhopJeEsTb2I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.anfworld.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Abercrombie (not verified)</a> on 30 Nov 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493169">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493170" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1260067397"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>thnks youuuuuuu</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493170&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="GDVTE9gRFI47oVceLFOn56J9xUHSBpK7O49UWrHDApY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.seslisemt.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GENC (not verified)</a> on 05 Dec 2009 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493170">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493171" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1266806361"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I dont think that was so much toxication ! <a href="http://www.xeher.de/tv-shqip.html">TV Shqip </a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493171&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hscsiCNM91CIgg-HrOli_X4ok2Dogw1vMc_RQx1O2cs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.xeher.de/tv-shqip.html" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">TV Shqip (not verified)</a> on 21 Feb 2010 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493171">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493172" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1300747988"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Above 300 deg is around what you'd have to be at to produce enough of the gasses to harm someone at the site itself. So you're right but it's both production than volitization.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493172&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wFwaIV1QSc9yoqobY8K9fCC4-yEWmx3xiSljt68BUNU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thewellzone.org" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">houston chiropractor (not verified)</a> on 21 Mar 2011 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493172">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2493173" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1319599900"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>thank you for admin</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2493173&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wBQnvsIk5hI157pgPSWE756fiji6KhE23IAx6Bv37sI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a rel="nofollow" href="http://cityotokiralama.com" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">adana oto kiralama (not verified)</a> on 25 Oct 2011 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/35987/feed#comment-2493173">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/angrytoxicologist/2008/12/09/what-kind-of-toxic-chemcials-w%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:26:05 +0000 angrytoxicologist 146812 at https://www.scienceblogs.com