News of the Weird https://www.scienceblogs.com/ en Naturopaths cynically use the murder of a quack to promote naturopathic licensure https://www.scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/03/22/naturopaths-use-the-murder-of-a-quack-to-promote-naturopathic-licensure <span>Naturopaths cynically use the murder of a quack to promote naturopathic licensure</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Naturopathy is a frequent topic on this blog because it is a veritable cornucopia of quackery, in which not pseudoscience is too out there. Homeopathy, functional medicine, bogus diagnostic tests, traditional Chinese medicine, reflexology, naturopaths embrace it all, and more. More importantly, thanks to "complementary and alternative medicine" (CAM), known more recently as "integrative medicine," naturopathy is becoming more and more "respectable." Indeed, there are naturopaths at far too many academic medical centers. One even participated in the writing of the Society for <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/12/01/old-wine-in-a-new-skin-the-society-for-integrative-oncology-issues-guidelines-for-breast-cancer/">Integrative Oncology's breast cancer guidelines</a>. Then there is the push for naturopathic licensure in various states, such as <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/01/12/naturopathic-quackery-wins-licensure-in-massachusetts/">Massachusetts</a> and my <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/05/23/quack-attack-naturopaths-and-supplement-companies-press-for-naturopathic-licensure-in-michigan/">home state of Michigan</a>, with supplement <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/05/19/naturopaths-and-supplement-manufacturers-in-bed-together-to-promote-naturopathic-licensure/">manufacturers paying the bill</a>.</p> <p>A couple of weeks ago, there was a murder in Bowling Green, KY. The tale of this murder that I'm about to relate will consist two parts. First, there will be the tale of the murder itself. Then, there will be the tale of how quacks use the murder to serve their nefarious ends. Let's begin with the crime. The victim of the murder was a naturopath named Juan Gonzalez, who was shot to death in his Bowling Green office on the evening of March 3, allegedly by a man named Omer Ahmetovic, who was quickly arrested for the crime. But what was Ahmetovic's motive for murder? His wife, Fikreta Ibrisevic, was a <a href="http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article137725463.html">patient of Gonzalez's</a> who died Feb. 27, after having been diagnosed with rhabdomyosarcoma, an rare form of connective tissue cancer, and chosen Gonzalez over conventional oncologists and surgeons:</p> <blockquote><p> Ibrisevic was diagnosed with rhabdomyosarcoma, a soft-tissue cancer, in late 2015 to early 2016, according to the lawsuit. The couple were interested in natural therapies while Ibrisevic waited to be scheduled for the beginning of traditional cancer treatments.</p> <p>On or near Jan. 11, 2016, Gonzalez told the couple that traditional cancer treatments such as radiation and chemotherapy were for “uneducated” people and he could “guarantee” Ibrisevic would be cancer free with his treatments within three months, according to the lawsuit. He is further accused of telling Ibrisevic that “chemotherapy is for losers.” </p></blockquote> <p>So basically, Ibrisevic and her husband were a bit woo-prone and wanted to investigate “natural” therapies for her newly diagnosed cancer. It's an all too common situation, and it's one that quacks frequently take advantage of. If the claims in Ahmetovic’s lawsuit are accurate, his wife was planning on undergoing conventional therapy for her cancer but changed her mind and decided to pursue naturopathic treatments in response to Gonzalez’s statement that “chemotherapy is for losers” and his other claims, particularly his claim that he could render her cancer-free within three months without the toxicity of surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy. It’s easy to see how someone, when faced with a life-threatening disease that can only be treated by a combination of potentially disfiguring surgery, toxic chemotherapy, and radiation therapy, which has its own potentially unpleasant side effects, would be tempted by a confident statement by a charlatan like Gonzalez that he could cure her within three months without her having to endure all that. One can imagine the temptation if the patient already had leanings toward wanting “natural therapy,” as Ibrisevic clearly did.</p> <p>This is <a href="http://www.kentucky.com/news/state/article137725463.html">what happened next</a>:</p> <blockquote><p> Ibrisevic began treatments which included buying herbs from Gonzalez, massages, foot soaks, dietary instructions and other treatments. From January through May 2016, Ibrisevic and Ahmetovic paid Gonzalez and Natural Health Center for Integrative Medicine more than $7,000 for the treatments and herbs, according to the lawsuit.</p> <p>When Ibrisevic began treatment, she had one tumor. When she discontinued treatment with Gonzalez she had seven tumors, according to the lawsuit.</p> <p>“The original tumor became so large to the extent that it was visible outside of her body,” according to the lawsuit. “Her eyes began to turn yellow and her legs began to swell. After she discontinued treatment with the defendants, after one round of traditional chemotherapy, the only tumor that remained was the original tumor.” </p></blockquote> <p>Basically, Ibrisevic died because she trusted a quack instead of conventional medicine. Yes, she had probably a 50% chance of dying anyway if she had accepted conventional treatment before it was too late, but that’s a 50% chance she didn’t have once she believed Gonzalez’s claims and acted upon them.</p> <p>A review of the timeline can’t help but sadden; so, to the best of my knowledge based on my reading on the case, I reconstructed it. The story began in late 2015, when Ibrisevic was diagnosed with this cancer. In January 2016, they sought out Gonzalez, who treated them for a period of time that isn’t clear from the news reports. By late 2016 or so, it was clear that Gonzalez’s quackery wasn’t working and that Ibrisevic’s tumor was progressing. During that time, she still consulted with other naturopaths, who reported that Gonzalez had administered so many herbs that Ibrisevic had a toxic reaction. At this point, she apparently returned to conventional care and underwent chemotherapy, but it was too late. Although some of her tumors responded to chemotherapy, she clearly by this time had metastatic disease and was doomed. So on January 27, 2017, she and her husband filed suit, which was answered on February 6. However, sadly, she died a month later, on February 27.</p> <p>Then, on Friday, March 3, a mere four days after his wife’s death, Ahmetovic allegedly walked into Gonzalez’s office after hours and shot him dead. One can imagine him waiting until after his wife’s funeral, and then doing the deed.</p> <p>As strong as my instinct not to speak ill of the dead, I can't help but point out that Gonzalez was, without a doubt, a quack. The <a href="http://www.naturalhealthbg.com" rel="nofollow">website for his clinic</a> looks a lot like a lot of other websites I've examined for naturopaths. Its front page advertises a lot of obvious quackery, and his <a href="http://www.naturalhealthbg.com/meet-the-doctor.html" rel="nofollow">self-description reads thusly</a>:</p> <blockquote><p> <strong>I am a Naturopathic Doctor, Iridologist, Master Herbalist and currently working towards my phD in integrative medicine.</strong> I offer an iridology evaluation prior to recommending a non-invasive method of treatment to establish a health protocol which may include medicinal herbs. The evaluation is a critical component whose aim is to remove the source of the disease and facilitate healing in a non-invasive, non-toxic manner. Evaluating a person's condition requires in-depth knowledge of biochemistry, chemistry, biology, physiology, anatomy, psychology, and all other systems which comprise the totality of who we are. </p></blockquote> <p><a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/iridology/">Iridology</a>, of course, is the rankest of quackery, akin to phrenology 150 years ago. Basically, like chiropractic, it's a pseudomedical specialty invented out of whole cloth by a "brave maverick doctor." It's a lot like reflexology in that, as reflexology claims that various organs and body parts "map" to specific parts of the soles of the feet and hands, iridology "maps" body parts to parts of the iris. Basically, it's the homunculus model. Like many alternative medicine practitioners, he claims to have "converted" after "Western medicine" failed him. In this case, Gonzalez was diagnosed with diabetes and "discovered that western medicine as a whole could not heal this condition." He enlisted in the Army, went to college, received a degree in Business Management, after which he got his MBA. Then he attended the <a href="https://www.trinityschool.org" rel="nofollow">Trinity School of Natural Health</a>.</p> <p>This is a <a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-does-nd-mean/">school we've met before</a>, and it's not even an "accredited" school of naturopathy. Basically, its graduates can't be licensed in states that license naturopaths, which gives you an idea of how bad this school is. It's ultimately more of a Bible school than anything else, being highly religious. As <a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/what-does-nd-mean/">Harriet</a> recounted a few years back, the only admission requirement for Trinity's ND program is a high school diploma or GED, and the curriculum consists of 15 installments of a correspondence course, with a list of classes full of quackery: Bach flower remedies, reflexology, iridology, homeopathy, applied kinesiology, acupressure techniques, aromatherapy, dry blood analysis, assessing health by acid/alkaline balancing, and so on. So Gonzalez is not even what naturopaths would call a "real" naturopath in that he got his degrees through a correspondence course that's not even recognized by naturopathic quacks as valid.</p> <p>This brings us to the second part of the story. If there's one thing that irritates the crap out of me, it's the self-righteous denials of "real" naturopaths (the ones who have graduated from "accredited" naturopathy schools) that naturopaths are quacks, that they offer the sorts of treatments that "unaccredited" naturopaths like Gonzalez offered. I also find it highly disingenuous how naturopaths are pouncing on the death of Juan Gonzalez to push for—you guessed it!—<a href="http://www.bgdailynews.com/news/death-of-naturopathic-care-provider-and-client-a-double-tragedy/article_fe80605b-b3a1-5314-b11b-6bf9be7e5e47.html">naturopathic licensure</a>:</p> <blockquote><p> Peter Swanz, a naturopathic doctor in Louisville referred to the deaths as a “double tragedy.”</p> <p>“This double tragedy happened because Kentucky is an unlicensed state for naturopathic medicine, meaning Kentucky does not yet have a naturopathic medical board to license naturopathic physicians that have attended four-year naturopathic medical school and passed the Naturopathic Medical Examination test,” he said. “The first step to passing these exams is going to medical school for four years.” </p></blockquote> <p>"Medical school"? How disingenuous. No matter how much naturopaths try to promote this message equating naturopathy school with medical school, naturopathy school is <em>not</em> medical school. In terms of scientific rigor, there is no discernable difference between naturopaths trained at "acceptable," "accredited" naturopathy schools like the ones that Peter Swanz is trying to represent as "going to medical school for four years." Naturopathy school is not, by any stretch of the imagination, the equivalent of legitimate medical school. Its clinical training is <a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/nd-confession-part-1-clinical-training-inside-and-out/">far inferior</a>, and <a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/nd-confession-part-ii-the-accreditation-of-naturopathic-medical-education/">its "accreditation" is a sham</a>. Worse, it's expensive, and sucks the unwary into the naturopathy maw with promises of being the equivalent of real doctors.</p> <p>The mouthpiece of organized naturopathy, the American Association of Naturopathic Physicians (AANPs) released a predictable statement:</p> <blockquote><p> “This tragic scenario underscores the need for vigorous public awareness on the education, training and scope of practice of licensed naturopathic doctors as well as the essential need for state regulation of licensed naturopathic doctors,” the association said in its statement. “It is important the public understand the vast distinction in the education and training of a licensed naturopathic doctor and Juan Gonzalez, a self-proclaimed practitioner.</p> <p>“We support the practice and science of naturopathic medicine administered by a licensed ND. Each AANP member has graduated from a four-year, postgraduate education program at naturopathic medical schools accredited by agencies recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. The AANP strongly advocates for greater patient access to licensed NDs in all 50 states and U.S. territories.” </p></blockquote> <p>This is the line of propaganda that naturopaths relate each and every time its specialty is criticized. Indeed, that last paragraph is tacked on to just about every statement made by the AANP, seemingly no matter what it is about, as a Google search of a chunk of text from the paragraph will show and has been seen in <a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/nd-confession-part-ii-the-accreditation-of-naturopathic-medical-education/">posts on familiar blogs</a>. Indeed, the <a href="http://www.naturopathic.org/files/AANPSTATEMENT_SlayingofKYHealthCoach.pdf">full statement</a> itself is downright nauseating. It goes on about how it's going on about how the AANP advocates for greater patient access to licensed naturopaths in all 50 states, implying that the tragic death of Fikreta Ibrisevic and murder of Juan Gonzalez were a direct result of the lack of licensure of naturopaths in Kentucky allowing quacks like Gonzalez to practice unfettered.</p> <p>Then we have other apologists for quacks, pulling the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Oh, no, they say, we'd never, ever do what Gonzalez does. Can't we all just get along? Can't we just "integrate" the quackery of naturopathy into conventional medicine and work together? Here, we have Rafael F. Cruz, a medical doctor at Kentuckiana Integrative Medicine in Jeffersonville, IN providing this line:</p> <blockquote><p> “The bottom line is that both sides of medicine can be helpful to the patient,” said Cruz, who is familiar with naturopaths educated in four-year graduate schools and online schools.</p> <p>Graduates of the four-year schools learn many of the same things as traditional medical school students, Cruz said, “and you can’t get that kind of clinical exposure from correspondence courses,” Cruz said. Four-year graduates are generally better prepared.</p> <p>“Having said that, I know naturopaths who have gone the correspondence route and are well prepared and have successful practices. What happened, which I know second hand from Dr. Swanz, is a tragedy. </p></blockquote> <p>And:</p> <blockquote><p> “There’s tension between the conventional world and the natural medicine world, but the reality is they both complement each other and can work effectively together, and the patient can benefit from that. I think a lot of patients want the support of natural or integrative medicine. More and more patients are seeking out the support available to them from integrative medicine and natural medicine. The big mistake from my standpoint is to exclude one from the other,” he said. </p></blockquote> <p>No, the tension is not between "the natural medicine world" and the "conventional medicine world." The tension is between science and pseudoscience, quackery and science- and evidence-based medicine. Naturopathy falls on the quackery side, and the reason the AANP is so defensive is that the case of Juan Gonzalez demonstrates that in no uncertain terms. "Licensed" naturopaths, at their heart, believe the same pseudoscience and practice the same sort of quackery. They're just better at hiding its craziness and making it seem "respectable" and don't like being reminded by cases like this that it is not.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a></span> <span>Wed, 03/22/2017 - 01:30</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/complementary-and-alternative-medicine" hreflang="en">complementary and alternative medicine</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/medicine" hreflang="en">medicine</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/naturopathy" hreflang="en">Naturopathy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/news-weird" hreflang="en">News of the Weird</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/pseudoscience" hreflang="en">Pseudoscience</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/quackery-0" hreflang="en">Quackery</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/skepticismcritical-thinking" hreflang="en">Skepticism/Critical Thinking</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/fikreta-ibrisevic" hreflang="en">Fikreta Ibrisevic</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/juan-gonzalez" hreflang="en">Juan Gonzalez</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/kentucky" hreflang="en">Kentucky</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/licensure" hreflang="en">licensure</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/naturopathy-0" hreflang="en">naturopathy</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/omer-ahmetovic" hreflang="en">Omer Ahmetovic</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/quackery" hreflang="en">quackery</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/complementary-and-alternative-medicine" hreflang="en">complementary and alternative medicine</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/medicine" hreflang="en">medicine</a></div> </div> </div> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-categories field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Categories</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/channel/medicine" hreflang="en">Medicine</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356258" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490162361"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>According to Erin Elizabeth, the vile little dirtball was actually a highly-successful Holistic Healer! He was "Board-certified" and completely legit!<br /><a href="http://www.healthnutnews.com/holistic-dr-found-dead-natural-health-clinic-police-calling-victims-death-suspicious/">http://www.healthnutnews.com/holistic-dr-found-dead-natural-health-clin…</a></p> <p>Also he was murdered by Big Pharma, determined to wipe out the competition! Perhaps Ahmetovic could use this in his defense.</p> <p>If the would-be main-stream naturopaths want to take out the trash, they really have to start with Erin Elizabeth and Mercola and the rest of the on-line scammers, but I suspect that this is not going to happen.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356258&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="XkuorSvPQLOhtB6185LNA3M1EfFu8kL2Hps0_kHEQcw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356258">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1356260" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490166474"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yes, I'm aware of Erin Elizabeth's thinking about adding Sanchez to her list of "holistic doctors" targeted by pharma assassins. I suspect that she backed off when she found out the circumstances of the murder. Basically, it doesn't fit her narrative for the prime suspect to have been a grieving widower of a patient of Sanchez's who died because he promised her he could cure her.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356260&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3dfGvWVgFhAb2wTYsaOoKsssixICQzWdX1sxncOcmGE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356260">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1356258#comment-1356258" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356259" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490166170"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The quack probably would have settled the lawsuit rather than risk a trial. Looks like he was making a good income from his quackery; his "office" is a nice building, and the equipment he "uses" ain't cheap. He was even going to add hyperbaric chamber.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356259&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="IPdgpYZgqeW_B0STz5-fgvfQuoTfHgB2y3et1PVDN1Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356259">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356261" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490167081"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>So what do you call one dead Naturopath?<br /> A start.</p> <p>If more people responded to being conned in this manner, it may make being a scamming quack a bit less enticing. If you are enough of a sociopath that knowingly using ineffective treatments and causing your patients deaths doesn't cause you to make a career change, death is the only solution. I'm a firm believer that stupid should hurt, but it being a death sentence is a bit far for me. </p> <p>Naturopathy, the medical equivalent of thoughts and prayers. A good excuse to do nothing, and feel superior about it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356261&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KsHYlNJNpiljIvKzQxuUNfRYQjVCaTVpulVGa7eAHUM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous Pseudonym (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356261">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356262" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490168462"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Blaming this murder on Kentucky's not licensing naturopaths makes even less sense than calling it the Bowling Green massacre. Somebody was murdered, after all, and the perpetrator has an obviously foreign--plausibly Bosnian--name. And it actually happened in Bowling Green.</p> <p>OK, I'm half joking about the Bowling Green massacre. But only half joking.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356262&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="HH6cvI5Bjx5BEnwJ_KlyrPL7HWkK4Gp8scX9G8Y2mtk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356262">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356263" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490168781"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Graduates of the four-year schools learn many of the same things as traditional medical school students, Cruz said"</p> <p>...and then go on to ignore most of what they've been taught.</p> <p>This is also the case for chiropractors, who boast of their "rigorous" scientific training.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356263&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uQ24BE5PenNTAle0XKCqS1WSC6n2RHRWn5k1LZ_FA3I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356263">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356264" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490172700"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Graduates of the four-year schools learn many of the same things as traditional medical school students, Cruz said</p></blockquote> <p>They are expected to have high school diplomas and, presumably, undergraduate degrees before enrolling. So technically, yes, they do learn many of the same things. In the course of a four-year ND program compared to a four-year MD program, not so much.</p> <p>Basic high school level chemistry seems not to be among the things that ND students learn (or alternatively, as DB suggests, they promptly forget it). Because that's all you need to know to understand why homeopathy is bunk, and as Orac repeatedly stresses, homeopathy is a major component of naturopathy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356264&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="r7djOhqM7hkYLQcpWfAgcy5r5R_DRzKfK7cqR3tC0Sw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356264">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356265" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490177597"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Orac writes,</p> <p>The tension is between science and pseudoscience, quackery and science- and evidence-based medicine.</p> <p>MJD says,</p> <p>It appears that Juan Gonzalez followed the law but was killed based on efficacy of the non-integrative medicine provided.</p> <p>Integrative medicine by definition is a supplemental treatment to science-based medicine.</p> <p>Orac's post is brilliant, although, the murder of a law-abiding medical practitioner should not be used as a measuring stick to determine the validity of integrative medicine.</p> <p>How many times has science-based medicine (i.e., chemotherapy) killed a cancer patient?</p> <p>@ Orac's minions,</p> <p>Could the use of integrative medicine during chemotherapy improve the outcome?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356265&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="a6bSAUDa9R8XoAuOtSBpLCtgTYkW-ABfyHHMCzrT2c8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael J. Dochniak (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356265">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356266" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490180573"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@8 MJD<br /> The integrative medicine is only good for one thing, separating the sucker from his money. As Orac is fond of saying, CAM that is tested and found to be effective is called medicine. The rest is just plain crap.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356266&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="HYiKDH_CN0PR7gj191_XfbQn4WPLTSCCtPTEgjpFzHs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous Pseudonym (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356266">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356267" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490181148"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"How many times has science-based medicine (i.e., chemotherapy) killed a cancer patient?"</p> <p>By that, I suppose you really mean "How often is chemotherapy not able to prevent death from the disease" And as Orac points out, for this type of a tumor, the chance of avoiding death with conventional medical treatment was 50%.<br /> Contrast that with the naturopathic quack treatment, which had a 0% -zero- chance of saving her.<br /> Convincing someone to forgo a treatment with a proven chance of saving her, by claiming that a wholly ineffective treatment would make her "cancer-free in three months" IS the same as killing her.<br /> And the answer to your last question is - EVIDENCE REQUIRED.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356267&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OlI0C5AB0akD4xutx5u0PsphJEoQNocuunkZvax6M3A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Argus (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356267">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356268" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490183331"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I think we all need a nice cup of herbal tea.</p> <p><a href="http://nypost.com/2017/03/21/woman-dies-after-drinking-toxic-tea-from-herbal-remedy-shop/">http://nypost.com/2017/03/21/woman-dies-after-drinking-toxic-tea-from-h…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356268&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="QZX4edOmex_yMCnFmwex9Vwm1UppifDsHpb6sSZO6Ro"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356268">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356269" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490184592"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Integrative medicine by definition is a supplemental treatment to science-based medicine.</p></blockquote> <p>In other words, it is not necessary for treating a medical condition. That's useful to know.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356269&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="i4qHViT5hieCUCWA31DWq0izc9RdLjk3fL_XJ_UFvHk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356269">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356270" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490187755"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Michael J. Dochniak (#8):</p> <p>Integrative medicine, by definition, is the attempt to crowbar scientifically indefensible practices into the legitimate practice of medicine.</p> <p>Any genuinely legitimate part of "integrative" medicine would be available to medicine without the "integrative" bullshit. "Integrative" is only required if you believe that scientific evidence is not a valid way of selecting treatments. And if you *do* believe that then you are a charlatan.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356270&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cN0O_sKIB5yWw8ATBxEguS7_m0D6UAnEsexncH7PNPU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Guy Chapman (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356270">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356271" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490196259"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It would interesting to hear more of the dead naturopath's story and treatment. This wasn't some starry eyed 20 something. </p> <p>Sarcomas can be nasty beasts. One of my doctor friends had a born rich aunt who married a Hopkins MD.who became a research faculty at a high end med school. Dead in four months, still rich. </p> <p><i>"Chemo is for losers"</i><br /> Again would be interested to hear his story, and bias. I know plenty whose conventional chemo failed them and one whose mom died on the very first chemo treatment, the proverbial "chemo still in her veins". Too much, too fast.</p> <p>I happen to think careful choice of chemo AND alternatives AND better, closer monitoring would be generally superior.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356271&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="r3yjTEW9245ElBaSAo52c4PNm1ToMIm5JEjYNXxBs3s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">prn (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356271">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356272" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490196442"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>typo, p&amp;n didn't register. #14 in moderation is by me, prn</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356272&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-YxEtun8KCne4mn2miersgkDu3ZRtzp8cZ6tFgQTAtQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">prn (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356272">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356273" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490196444"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>People do die from chemotherapy. It sucks, but the chance of dying from the untreated disease exceeds the chance of dying from the chemo.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356273&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="V8hRYRqbwchClP7_qM2JQNIevqDPfJqNof8EWzDVLnc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Christine Rose (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356273">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356274" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490198516"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Could the use of integrative medicine during chemotherapy improve the outcome?</i></p> <p>That would be akin to leave a triple extra creamy turd on the back seat of a Bentley...</p> <p>Alain</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356274&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fLSHHBGUz7DgyVHrV19Q5T_0KDr2aHw97NUckJcwOIA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alain (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356274">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356275" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490199822"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@MJD: in no universe is lying to a patient about being able to cure them when you can't "following the law."</p> <p>The problem with the victims of quacks is they almost never sue the quack. This is because they are either dead, too ashamed of being conned, or their families are unwilling to admit what happened in open court. It's a wonderful way to make a living if you can stomach it, which too many quacks clearly can do.</p> <p>In this case, the patient and husband were so angry they decided to sue. But when the patient died, the husband decided murder was the appropriate resolution to the situation. I suspect his culture is behind that.</p> <p>I almost wish the case had gone to court. A nice fat lawsuit is just was these quacks deserve. I wish Gonzalez had been soaked for everything he had, but I think he was smart enough to drag it out for a while then settle quietly.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356275&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rkAIdE6QV5R-r0lzQYLlkojQK1JYniTGtEspQlEXkIA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356275">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356276" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490204763"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>The problem with the victims of quacks is they almost never sue the quack</i></p> <p>If Erin Elizabeth can be trusted -- a big "if", I know -- Gonzalez was facing <b>multiple</b> lawsuits.</p> <blockquote><p>Patients have emailed (and even posted in the comments below) that Dr Gonzalez was treating cancer patients- successfully. In fact, he had (allegedly) asked a few to testify as he had some upcoming court dates, apparently for treating said cancer patients. As we all know, the government doesn’t like holistic doctors treating cancer patients.</p></blockquote> <p>Though she hints that the Gubblement is behind these court cases, no doubt they put Ahmetovic up to it, they may even have persuaded his wife to die.</p> <p>As Orac notes in #2, Elizabeth is fully aware of the circumstances behind Gonzalez' conversion to plant-food, but she still implies (in the proper evasive, mendacious style) that he belongs in her list of Holistic Healers Assassinated by Pharma:</p> <blockquote><p>If you click here you can access the full list of 60+ doctors and their stories, who have been found dead in the last year and a half.</p></blockquote> <p>Her commentators hear the whistle and excitedly explain that Hilary and Obama were to blame. Some people should not be allowed outside when it rains, for fear that they will stare upwards with their mouths open and drown.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356276&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="oHTtbQFi_VRxBVzqPG1IZYoGDKxamVrphs9a_Zr-6Nw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356276">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356277" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490206706"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@AP #4, I concur with your assessment and opinion.<br /> I also sincerely hope that the fatal shot wasn't immediately fatal, so that he could enjoy the fruits of his efforts for a time.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356277&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="DbkbGDgcBxmftdF_1z2UpN4ar8_sa31h_lASXCxqK9Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356277">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356278" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490206819"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'll add, that as one who refuses to attempt to duck jury duty, I've sat on a number of juries over the years.<br /> If I were on a jury for the husband, I'd swiftly convince the other jurors to find the defendant innocent on all charges. All, while never uttering the words jury nullification.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356278&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OA-7C7mBYkWxvXWktw3znuHh2LExIgqyKFv1oRxgGSE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356278">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356279" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490207707"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Wiz, have you thought, just maybe, there is an MD out there who should be thanking his lucky stars, that Fikreta Ibrisevic wasn't <i>his</i> patient.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356279&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zrbiFIR_OQ8-eOJkFVVZCTwvFa5-Ov7m13D1oyLEvYg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">prn (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356279">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356280" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490207825"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>It would interesting to hear more of the dead naturopath’s story and treatment. This wasn’t some starry eyed 20 something. </i></p> <p>He was an opportunistic low-life jizzgibbon who bought a 'degree' on-line so he could scam sick people, after discovering that his Business Management grift was not sufficiently lucrative. How much of his story do you need?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356280&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="A4ldlFCdseQAqpNT3I8gW6h6AszKc6ZHxHp9FSBp-20"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356280">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356281" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490209683"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Imo, the real issue here is the failure of the authorities to prosecute people practicing medicine w/o a qualifying license. Ahmetovic should not have had to sue Gonzalez in civil court: cancer treatment by anyone other than an MD should land people in jail, even if the patients survive, and when they die like Ibrisevic, the quacks should be charged with homicide.</p> <p>Given the failings of the legal system in cases like this, I would be open to debate on whether some hypothetical form of licensure for naturopaths might mitigate against the likelihood of future similar abuses, as I doubt there can be any form of regulation w/o licensing. However, this would have to be a far more stringent regime than anything the NDs have now or have proposed – with tight limits on scope of practice, and state regulation with teeth – not pathetic "self-regulation". Of course, as I do not wish to be a hypocrite, I'll observe that MDs aren't exempt from either dangerous quackery or toothless "self-regulation" that fails to rein it in, state medical boards being largely a joke... We need real laws and real regulation covering the whole field of medicine and healthcare, not that we'll get them before the next Great Extinction, anymore than we'll get reasonable policy on guns.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356281&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kQNbBo0IIB5MYEIXVVOaI3GtDFWVBglI8EVKngtCJ9A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sadmar (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356281">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356282" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490211320"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Wiz, have you thought, just maybe, there is an MD out there who should be thanking his lucky stars, that Fikreta Ibrisevic wasn’t his patient.</p></blockquote> <p>Thank goodness you don't wander around offering advice clumsily disguised as expertise.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356282&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0HRIhH_pKBpkkJihoPR2C6sf1z19zZJ8lzshZ2MlbKE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356282">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356283" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490215406"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@22 prn<br /> You met many doctors who give false hope? How about doctors that lie to their patients? I'm sure there are some out there, but most seem to be brutally honest when it comes to bad news. Real treatments may fail, but at least they are based on reality, and not just some assholes greed induced fantasy. </p> <p>Since it was a real MD who initially broke the news to him and also tried, and failed, to save his wife, I'm guessing that there is a MD out there who had her as a patient, and attended her death due to the Naturopath's negligence. But I know. reading all of Orac's posts are hard.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356283&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wM4sZl0j9mONljEfnVqMTsjUnnrnk6VumbuZfIqIKeA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous Pseudonym (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356283">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356284" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490216088"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The whole and true story was not printed in the news media. Other people who were in the naturopath's office when the couple went there say that Ahometovic was insistent that the<br /> doctor do more than he was doing for his wife. The doctor went with them to another Naturalistic doctor in Texas to observe what that doctor diagnosed. It turns out that both doctors learned at that time that the couple was being treated by 3 other doctors at the same time. Gonzalez refused to do any more treatments because he was not aware of the multiple doctors treating her. He did not treat her after that.<br /> Omer was impatient and pacing around Gonzalez's office at that time according to an eye witness. This was not brought out in the news. Knowing Gonzalez for over 15 years, I don't believe he told anyone he could cure the cancer. Also he was a believer in college education since he encouraged all of his children to obtain college degrees. He held a Master's Degree in business. He has been unfairly viewed as "the villain" in this case. He too had a family, children and grandchildren. He also was an immigrant but became an American citizen and served his country. He worked full time while putting himself through college after retiring from the military. His attorney had a lawsuit to negate the charges made in Ahmetovic's filed suit. According to witness, the charges in Ahmetovic's lawsuit did not happen. So, maybe before Juan Gonzalez is demonized by people who do not know him and his character, you should obtain the "truth" before printing such vile comments.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356284&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="MCYkcqcT9AaYT_kEvHthNVxhxTAVMPH0bYUfKjpxato"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">anonymous (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356284">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1356288" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490257639"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Perusing Gonzalez's website was more than enough to convince me that he was a quack. He might have been a hell of a nice guy and served his country well, but as of early 2017 he was a quack who got a degree through a correspondence school. He had no business treating a patient like Fikreta Ibrisevic—or any patients whatsoever.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356288&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Sy-d8ERUbsn5VSfLy86UxIxS8SrmfRjKYpZaFiRosHQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356288">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1356284#comment-1356284" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">anonymous (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356285" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490219880"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><b>Wiz, have you thought, just maybe, there is an MD out there who should be thanking his lucky stars, that Fikreta Ibrisevic wasn’t his patient.</b></p> <p>prn,</p> <p>Fikreta Ibrisevic turned back to conventional medicine after having been failed by the naturoquack and yet, <b>those</b> medical doctor never got shot at.</p> <p>Alain</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356285&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iizxv906IffirGPt5bfhORTQjZNncwnCTHfNN713sO4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alain (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356285">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356286" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490219946"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's only herbs and minerals and natural products. What could possibly be harmful?<br /> Lead and mercury contaminants. Aristolochia. Pennyroyal. Ephedra. Aconite. Sassafras. Undeclared pharmaceuticals - sildenafil, corticosteroids, sulfonylureas. Variable levels of active components. Fraudulent formulations containing inert substances.<br /> Besides the toll on the people who take these things, there is the toll of the natural remedy market on the planet - tigers, bears, rhinos, pangolins, and other endangered species. If you ever saw how bear bile is "farmed" you might not sleep for weeks. ("But that's not herbal", you say. No, it isn't, but it's all part and parcel of the same body of superstition and stupidity.)<br /> A long trail of death, disability, disfigurement, you name it.<br /> Yes, those herbal remedies and supplements are sure complementary - a fine complement to the undertaker's art.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356286&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xe7TLAjKsSMS85Q8oQk6m0j1hs39uA94Qtpn-h4_icw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356286">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356287" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490220511"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>#24 sadder <i>... I would be open to debate on whether some hypothetical form of licensure for naturopaths might mitigate against the likelihood of future similar abuses, as I doubt there can be any form of regulation w/o licensing. </i><br /> Why license quacks? There <i>is </i> a form of regulation called "practicing medicine without a license."</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356287&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="qZoq9CqomVIAr58Q-Td5HUfm-xm5gxyICn0Gl67EMSE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">mho (not verified)</span> on 22 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356287">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356289" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490273892"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Pennyroyal tea can help you in a bad mood. The song, that is. I wouldn't drink that stuff.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356289&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RoFWgbIlgRMf_Qc2wHdW_Z_T4Ua9v4Y893YclO3TCHw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Psalmanazaar (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356289">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356290" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490282970"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Psalmanazaar, I don't know about pennyroyal as a mood elevator, but I do know it as a dangerous abortifacient and as a destroyer of livers and kidneys.<br /> There is one form of pennyroyal that could induce me to drink, and it's this: <a href="https://www.pennyroyalbar.com/">https://www.pennyroyalbar.com/</a><br /> (Note: In #30 I left out dolomite, which not only can be a source of serious amounts of lead, but also can lead to theft of your pimp cane.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356290&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KQdM5Zczh6ZN3RtiAAvtoXz63P7dQdB0E8XB4VTnJ2U"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356290">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356291" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490287191"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is interesting. Gonzalez was "board certified" by the american naturopathic medical certification board." This seems to be home to the quackiest of the quackery programs. </p> <p><a href="http://www.anmcb.org/anmcb-ceu-programs.html">http://www.anmcb.org/anmcb-ceu-programs.html</a></p> <p>The other group is called the Council on Naturopathic Medical Education and they are the lesser (slightly) quacky ND group. </p> <p><a href="http://www.cnme.org/">http://www.cnme.org/</a></p> <p>Apparently, anyone can be board certified these days! Just start your own board! Didn't Rand Paul try to do this?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356291&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JPvqG3Dh7gbfhKflYDMaGZeg-xSRP2j5sKB5PUkStrw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Kathy (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356291">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356292" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490287322"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>And then there is this! Pastoral Medicine. Gonzales was also a member of this group. </p> <p><a href="https://pmai.us/chronic-health-conditions/">https://pmai.us/chronic-health-conditions/</a></p> <p>What the hell?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356292&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ASGFK1V_V74_sKGJfUU7UbX_Y2ZdoAog0bQInbcN4Wo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Kathy (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356292">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356293" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490288553"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@anonymous #27: Good Lord. Are you seriously blaming the victim for her own death here?</p> <p>If a victim of quackery is being treated by multiple quacks, it does not mean the quackery of any single one of them is any better than the others. If Gonzalez (I will not call him "doctor", that title is reserved for people who've actually earned it) told Ms. Ibrisevic he could cure her cancer or that chemotherapy is for losers as alleged, then he contributed to her death, full stop.</p> <p>Unless you were there for each and every consultation, you can't testify with any credibility as to what was or was not said. And your character review doesn't support Gonzalez either. He wasn't offering any real treatment for any medical condition or disease, yet he was holding himself out as if he was. Only the tragically poor laws in this country on this issue, combined with the lack of access to real medicine in states like Kentucky, allow scammers like Gonzalez to thrive. </p> <p>This so called witness would have had to have been present at every meeting between Gonzalez and the couple. That would come out in a deposition.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356293&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cVREzAvDoZvKts7PudzW0tckp2sKprjK6MaHiBeMWYk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356293">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356294" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490288833"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Kathy #36</p> <p>Wow. This Pastoral Medicine site actually purports to license "PMA practitioners."</p> <p>Wow. A scam that feeds on the scammers.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356294&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="a4aH2uPy1ksSPZiqbAIPb9e091c1HnfiI9Yls9B-xXA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356294">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356295" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490290324"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Wow. This Pastoral Medicine site actually purports to license “PMA practitioners.”</i><br /> The same people also run "zfactor.us", where they sell Approved Dietary Supplements -- 'lugol's iodine', and "fulvic + humic acid' (which is to say ashes and dirt, inna bottle).</p> <p><i>Wow. A scam that feeds on the scammers.</i><br /> Both parties gain from the symbiosis. It is a rich and vibrant ecology, such as exists in decomposition.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356295&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fm7BPq2JAdYh8hWGY7nN095pS_1HPThYPFmZwFUnH8Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356295">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356296" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490300394"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>In other naturopath news, the one with a role in the story of the death of Ezekiel Stephan (pronounced steh-FAN, if anyone cares) was "cleared of wrongdoing" by other naturopaths, as <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/stephans-trial-naturopath-complaint-dismissed-1.4028307"> reported by the CBC. </a></p> <p>We are awaiting the ruling on the appeal of the convictions of the Stephans. Prior to the appeal hearing I thought it very likely the appeal would be dismissed. I now think there is some chance a new trial will be ordered - Justice O'Ferrall stated very bluntly during a rather length back &amp; forth with the Crown prosecutor that the judge in the original trial had made an error in law. The other two judges on the appeal panel were silent on the matter, so I don't know how it will pan out. Earlier in the proceedings, Justice O'Ferrall had give the defense lawyer a pretty hard time. (The process of the appeal is speeches from the lawyers for both sides to a panel of three judges, who ask probing squirm-making questions as they see fit. I was left with the impression that neither the defense or prosecution lawyers were much good at thinking on their feet.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356296&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="jei-iE3QdmfgbQD6HZxYON5Fow34bonB6dX8SaTasO8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356296">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356297" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1490309741"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, if that isn't a reason to ban naturopathy, I don't know what is.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356297&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Qc_mpI1URfFW7kmsBXaQouJ-8SlSXdIF00tyZ2UPfGc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 23 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356297">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356298" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1491424818"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I just wanted to say: thank you, thank you, thank you, for continuing to speak out about the dangers of naturopathy. </p> <p>I am not a scientist or a doctor. I am a patient with a couple of difficult to treat conditions of the sort that naturopaths love to target. It is chilling. These people are evangelical, and if given an inch they will take a mile.</p> <p>Keep up the good work.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356298&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Z3m9qWq3fnKxHHXGkNRE8mBxUX_ReEJaW2mhSsyqC6w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">AJ (not verified)</span> on 05 Apr 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356298">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356299" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1493488173"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>When you label someone as a quack in order to insult them and strengthen your opinion in the mind of your readers, is that based on their failure to heal, or failure to obtain and use conventional education from modern institutions of higher learning so they can use their methods of treating for the purpose of healing?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356299&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="POSTkKOBwRqthY5bxh66LM-DErHPXcDWC91bIfnSonY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Todd Reilly (not verified)</span> on 29 Apr 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356299">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356300" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1493540262"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Todd: it's based on the quack's failure to use modalities that actually work.</p> <p>A health care provider trained in a science and evidenced based program (ie "conventional medicine") who uses modalities that are not proven to work, that can never work, that are harmful to the patient, or worse, actively encourages patients to ignore proven treatments in favor of unproven ones . . . is still a quack.</p> <p>What's insulting is that these quacks want to be treated as respectable by EBM providers. Someone who convinces a patient to drink uber diluted water, sticks needles into a patient, or waves his hands over a patient with magical thinking is not and never will be the equivalent of someone who completed four years of pre-med training in college, four years of medical education and 3-7 years of medical residency. </p> <p>Hell, such a person wasn't even the equivalent of me when I completed my 12 months of LPN training, and most certainly is not my equal now as an RN.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356300&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ocS7JwW8kmIqwebCHrM8Sw-c0qYGzftQnSvt3aHGLgY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 30 Apr 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356300">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356301" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1495700515"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Every article has its own view like this one. I just have a question. What do you think of big pharma introducing medicine that are still on going for study?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356301&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="V8fUwD5pI8AJ0FoK-MMj7WRzCqolNl0lTQ4MhYXOFl8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="Naturopathic Medicine">Naturopathic M… (not verified)</span> on 25 May 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356301">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356302" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1495705721"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Naturopathic Medicine:</p> <p>I know it's shocking to you that we'd bother studying medical treatments at all, but yes- it's generally considered wise to continue postmarketing surveillance of treatments that have made it all the way through the approval process.</p> <p>Now my question: what do you think of naturopaths continuing to sell phony treatments for nonexistent maladies?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356302&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ybVT2qgnulON9BeheFSanuhbIJVJwszT4IwPzMDc7WI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">madder (not verified)</span> on 25 May 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356302">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356303" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1495707813"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What do you think of big pharma introducing medicine that are still on going for study?</p> <p>Could you come up with a specific example? I for one am having trouble parsing the question.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356303&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="GO7T12LrxnC68S3lX9JCY5brstQcc3hL61fgH7rdA3Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 25 May 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356303">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356304" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1495707844"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>^ More blockquote fail.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356304&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cmYCqQOxN9_Q9kL3Cbj7mJh_EZNf4igjVFCObJurrec"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 25 May 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356304">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356305" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1495710083"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>So, does Naturopathic Medicine think naturopaths should get a pass on engaging in quackery because Big Pharma?</p> <p>I have trouble parsing that one myself.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356305&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3TQmZwr8eKgk-pjPze2ffusczuJUuMXDRX8ZLftpUaQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 25 May 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356305">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356306" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1495712386"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Perhaps he is talking about "off-label" use?</p> <p>Because no drug is allowed to be utilized for anything, until it is approved by the FDA via clinical trials and the approval process.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356306&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NGLqoD4o_z-Rrso5mCNGCVeWDryK0sgaY_cCGOnDoSI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 25 May 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356306">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1356307" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1495720321"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Perhaps the grammar is indicative of the quality of instruction at Bastyr. Even the prose is homeopathic.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1356307&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-EjYeOLdVIM1HcGOJ94q3tW1PQPOf9hKkURJMKmxfzE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris (not verified)</span> on 25 May 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1356307">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> </section> <ul class="links inline list-inline"><li class="comment-forbidden"><a href="/user/login?destination=/insolence/2017/03/22/naturopaths-use-the-murder-of-a-quack-to-promote-naturopathic-licensure%23comment-form">Log in</a> to post comments</li></ul> Wed, 22 Mar 2017 05:30:59 +0000 oracknows 22516 at https://www.scienceblogs.com Google delists Mike Adams' NaturalNews.com. His hilarious tantrum about the "conspiracy" behind it is epic, as is my schadenfreude. https://www.scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/02/23/google-delists-mike-adams-his-hilarious-tantrum-about-the-conspiracy-behind-it-is-epic-as-is-my-schadenfreude <span>Google delists Mike Adams&#039; NaturalNews.com. His hilarious tantrum about the &quot;conspiracy&quot; behind it is epic, as is my schadenfreude.</span> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Regular readers here are probably familiar with Mike Adams and his website NaturalNews.com. Forget the antivaccine crank blog Age of Autism, when it comes to wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet, NaturalNews is the wretchedest, scummiest, and quackiest. Not surprisingly, Adams got his start in wingnuttery <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/03/11/mike-adams-a-k-a-the-health-ranger-a-health-seamster-profiled/">selling Y2K scams nearly 18 years ago</a>. Now, besides presiding over a <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2015/03/11/mike-adams-a-k-a-the-health-ranger-a-health-seamster-profiled/">scammy online publishing empire</a> that racks in considerable green by publishing articles laced with <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/09/18/mike-adams-and-natural-biopreparedness-against-ebola-and-pandemics/">quackery</a>, <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/06/03/adams-turns-his-mad-science-skillz-to-analyzing-a-flu-vaccine/">antivaccine pseudoscience</a>, <a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/behold-my-power-quacks-and-despair/">character assassination</a>, and thuggery, both legal and getting a bit too close to inciting violence, Mikey fancies himself a scientist. (He also fancies himself a rapper and musician, but the less said about his rapping and vocal stylings, the better.) He's even gone so far as to purchase a used mass spectrometer and use it to analyze everything from his competitors' supplements to <a href="https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-never-ending-unchanging-story/">Flint water</a> to the <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/06/03/adams-turns-his-mad-science-skillz-to-analyzing-a-flu-vaccine/">flu vaccine</a>, resulting in pure hilarity (to real scientists) and, unsurprisingly, an interview with America's Quack, Mehmet Oz, on <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/05/14/americas-quack-dr-mehmet-oz/">The Dr. Oz Show</a> and an instant <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/12/26/mike-adams-defends-dr-oz-as-usual-hilarity-ensues/">quack bromance</a>. Basically, if it's quackery and pseudoscience, very likely <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/kavinsenapathy/2016/12/23/naturalnonsense-friends-dont-let-friends-read-natural-news/">Adams embraces it</a> and probably profits from selling it. More recently, Adams has become a die-hard Donald Trump supporter and a <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/the-alt-right-used-to-be-ignored-now-theyre-courting-a-president-elect/2016/11/10/746341d8-a75b-11e6-8fc0-7be8f848c492_story.html?utm_term=.9bf5d4b81b00">rising star in the alt-right</a>.</p> <p>In the interests of full disclosure, I must reveal the reason for my schadenfreude. First, it appears that, for unclear reasons, Google <a href="https://www.telapost.com/natural-news-google-penalty/">penalized NaturalNews.com today</a>, as Len over at Telapost noticed:</p> <!--more--><blockquote> Today someone asked me why they could not find a website in Google search. The website is “Natural News” (<a href="http://naturalnews.com/">http://naturalnews.com/</a>). <p>Indeed, the site has been penalized by Google. This means, for whatever reason, the site does not show up in Google organic search. I tested the subdomain blogs.naturalnews.com as well, and it too is penalized. </p></blockquote> <p>Len goes on to note that he's seen sites disappear for a day or two and come back, but as of right now he noted that NaturalNews.com is definitely missing from Google Search results. I myself also did some tests and found the same thing. At least as of my writing this, NaturalNews is:</p> <blockquote><p> If you are not active in the world of SEO you may call it blackballed, sandboxed, blacklisted, delisted, etc. It means your website has been removed from Google’s search results. Some penalties are algorithmic, others are manual, meaning a person at Google manually penalized the website for violating Google’s webmaster guidelines. </p></blockquote> <p>So we don't know why NaturalNews was penalized by Google, nor do we know if this penalization is permanent, brief, or long term, but this is serious business:</p> <blockquote><p> As mentioned above, this could be a fluke. Or, maybe there are a tremendous amount of bad links pointing at them- I doubt that though- the site is 10yrs old.</p> <p>I googled a recent post and it had been mentioned nearly 3,000 times in just days that I could tell, which means it has likely been cited significantly more than that. That is a tremendous amount od SEO value. From what I can tell, the site should be ranking very well. But, that said, there is only so much I can tell by just glancing around. I do not have access to what I would need to determine why the penalty occurred.</p> <p>This must be fairly recent as SimilarWeb estimates that 31% of their 6,500,000 monthly hits are via organic search. </p></blockquote> <p>When I searched for NaturalNews.com on Google, I got Adams' Facebook page. I got a bunch of entries about Natural News, including RationalWiki's and a couple posts by me here and at my not-so-super-secret other blog. I got a couple of domains owned by Adams and linked to NaturalNews.com, such as NewsTarget.com, Healthranger.com, and TruthWiki.org, all domains that do not appear to be affected. But I saw no direct links to NaturalNews.com. On Twitter I've been getting reports from the UK that Adams' site appears to have been delisted there as well.</p> <p>Of course, it's possible that, by the time you see this, Google will be indexing NaturalNews.com again. Or not. SEO might as well be black magic to me, and I am not wise in the ways of Google. I am, however, amused at Mike Adams' reaction. Those of you familiar with Adams knows that to him everything is a conspiracy, and this is no exception. It couldn't possibly be that Adams did something to trigger the penalty and that there was no malice on Google's part (which is almost certainly the case). Oh, no. It had to be The Man out to get him, as this gloriously unhinged screed posted yesterday by Adams entitled <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20170222232139/http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-22-google-blacklists-natural-news-removes-140000-pages-from-its-index-memory-holes-natural-news-investigative-articles.html" rel="nofollow">GOOGLE blacklists Natural News… removes 140,000 pages from its index… “memory holes” Natural News investigative articles on vaccines, pharma corruption, fraudulent science and more</a>. Naturally, the reason Google penalized and "delisted" his website is retaliation:</p> <blockquote><p> Late last week, I received a direct threat that warned if I did not take steps to destroy Alex Jones and InfoWars, I would be targeted for destruction in a campaign of smears, censorship and defamation.</p> <p>Instead of giving in to the enemy, I refused to take the bait and went public with details of the threat, warning everyone in the new media that sinister forces were now being pursued to undermine and silence every anti-establishment (and pro-Trump) voice on the internet.</p> <p>True to form, today the entire Natural News website has been blacklisted by Google, entirely without warning. </p></blockquote> <p>As is his usual M.O., Adams linked the delisting of his flagship website to...well, everything, including the fall of Milo Yiannopoulos, the alt right troll known for his misogyny, slurs against and outing of LGBT people, and general nastiness. Apparently, none of that was too much for conservatives who embraced him for being "politically incorrect," but when he spoke <a href="http://www.theverge.com/2017/2/22/14690718/milo-yiannopoulos-pedophilia-cpac-book-deal-resignation-timeline">way too blithely about pedophilia</a>, even appearing to defend it and joke about his molestation by a priest as having taught him how to give better fellatio, that was too much and he was <a href="http://www.salon.com/2017/02/22/cpac-helped-bring-the-alt-right-into-the-conservative-movement-now-insists-it-wants-them-out_partner/">disinvited from speaking at this week's CPAC conservative gathering</a> and forced to resign from Breitbart. Of course, it was the "opposition research" and a "cynical media witch hunt" that brought him down. Then there's InfoWars <a href="http://web.archive.org/save/http://www.infowars.com/breaking-infowars-is-being-censored/">having been "blackballed" by AdRoll</a>, thus cutting into Alex Jones' profits. Then, of course, there were those evil liberals pummeling the Shopify e-commerce platform to dump the Breitbart online store. Then there was this:</p> <blockquote><p> Today, Natural News has been hit by Google, which has blacklisted the entire Natural News domain and removed over 140,000 pages from its index. The take down of Natural News happened this morning, and it follows a pattern of censorship we’re seeing being leveled against other pro-Trump websites. Google sent no warning whatsoever to our “webmaster tools” email address on file with them. The shut off of Natural News was clearly driven by a human decision, not an algorithm. We’re currently attempting to determine Google’s claimed justification for censoring our entire website, and we hope to have NaturalNews.com restored in Google’s index. </p></blockquote> <p>Schadenfreude feels so good. I truly enjoyed reading Adams' rant about how you are "witnessing a modern-day book burning by the internet Gestapo that now decides what knowledge you’re never allowed to access… especially because much of that knowledge can help set humanity free." I mean, I knew Adams was grandiose, but this is ridiculous, so much so that it's worth quoting at more length than I normally do, so that you, too, can laugh at it without actually having to visit NaturalNews.com (although feel free to do so if you like, and tell Adams Orac sent you). Read it in all its unhinged glory:</p> <blockquote><p> Natural News is, of course, one of the world’s top educational and activism sources exposing the lies of dangerous medicine, toxic mercury in vaccines, the corporate-quack science behind GMOs, cancer industry fraud and so on. By providing truthful, empowering and passionate information to the public, we harm the profit model of the corrupt medical cartels that fund the media, lobby the government and influence internet gatekeepers with advertising money. (Google has already declared war on natural medicine and nutritional supplements, all but banning them from being advertised on Google Adsense.)</p> <p>The removal of Natural News from Google’s index means that millions of people may now be unnecessarily harmed by toxic medicines, herbicides and brain-damaging mercury in vaccines because they are being denied the “other side of the story” that’s censored by the corporate-controlled media. By censoring Natural News, Google is, in effect, siding with the criminal pharmaceutical industry that has been charged with multiple felony crimes and caught bribing doctors, fraudulently altering scientific studies, conducting medical experiments on children and price fixing their drugs to maximize profits.</p> <p>In effect, censorship of Natural News is part of the establishment’s war on humanity which includes depopulation measures (Bill Gates), covert infertility vaccines, corporate-run media disinfo campaigns and a full-on assault against scientific truth and free speech conducted in the public interest. </p></blockquote> <p>Won't someone think of the <strong><em>children</em></strong>? Not surprisingly, the almost as quacky Jon Rappoport is <a href="https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2017/02/22/breaking-infowars-and-natural-news-under-attack/" rel="nofollow">standing behind Mike Adams in his hour of need</a>. Of course, Adams will look very silly if this was just a glitch and his site is relisted tomorrow. I'm hoping that doesn't happen, but how Google operates is the very blackest of black boxes. Who knows what happened. I'm hoping the delisting sticks but fearing it won't.</p> <p>In any case, Adams is either really delusional or thinks incredibly little of his readers if he can say with a straight face that Natural News is one of the worlds "top educational and activism sources." In reality, it is, as I said above, the wretchedest of wretched hives of scum and quackery, now seasoned with alt right, Trump-worshiping misogyny, racism, bigotry against transgendered people, and general right wing batshit nuttiness. Even more hilarious is his claim that "millions of people" might now be harmed by the evil toxins, vaccines, herbicides, and everything else Adams likes to rant about.</p> <p>I have to wonder, naturally, whether Google's decision to delist NaturalNews.com is part of its attempt to clean up fake news. To be honest, as much as I despise Adams and his website, I'm not sure that NaturalNews.com qualifies as fake news. Adams rarely makes up stories out of whole cloth. Rather, like every good propagandist he takes existing news stories and information sources, cherry picks from them, and then weaves them together into a deceptive, biased tale designed to rile up his readers by confirming their conspiracy theories, all while misrepresenting science and evidence to fuel his quackery-supporting narratives. That's why I don't really consider NaturalNews.com to be a fake news site, but more like a whackaloon conspiracy theory and quackery website. I realize that that could be a distinction without a true difference.</p> <p>On the other hand, it's a fine line between what Adams does and fake news; I'm not always sure where I'd draw it. Even so, there's no doubt that Adams' website had serious Google juice, given all the citations, incoming links, and, these days above all, the social media shares, all coupled with a lot of traffic and reach. And that was a problem. His "fake medicine" and conspiracy theory articles were very <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/kavinsenapathy/2016/12/23/naturalnonsense-friends-dont-let-friends-read-natural-news/">widely shared</a> on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media, and Adams has been very SEO-, social media-, and web-savvy for a very long time. His ridiculous articles promoting ridiculous conspiracy theories (that is, when he wasn't gloating over the deaths of celebrities who used conventional medicine to treat their cancer), had a wide reach and were not infrequently shared by people on Facebook who really should know better. Since he went all in for Donald Trump, his reach has only grown, as he has become a rising star in the alt right.</p> <p>Like the alt right, he's very good at playing the martyr, persecuted in this case for...well, just read:</p> <blockquote><p> It’s clear to me that Natural News is being targeted primarily because of our support for President Trump and his review of vaccine safety. It is now apparent that any person who engages in real science, critical thinking or any attempt to protect children from the brain damaging effects of mercury in vaccines is going to be silenced, discredited, smeared and blacklisted. This is an astonishing realization about the depths of total corruption in society today and how the medical cartels control information to maximize their profits off human suffering. </p></blockquote> <p>Or, it could just be that Adams tried something with his website that Google didn't like, like <a href="https://www.bmyers.com/public/463.cfm?sd=30">bogus links, cloaking, spoofing</a>, or <a href="http://www.leadsleap.com/blog/delisted-from-google-why/">doorway pages</a>. Or <a href="https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/35769">something else that Google doesn't like</a>. There's no way of knowing. As I said before, Google's search algorithms are the blackest of black boxes.</p> <p>I am, however, very much enjoying my schadenfreude, and will continue to do so as long as Adams' site is delisted and he continues his tirades against Google and his victimhood conspiracies. I just started listening to Adams' podcast about the whole thing:</p> <p>[soundcloud url="<a href="https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/309074912">https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/309074912</a>" params="auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false&amp;visual=true" width="100%" height="450" iframe="true" /]</p> <p>I'm sorry, I had to stop when Adams started to brag about how NaturalNews.com is true journalism that cites all its sources and does in-depth analysis. I couldn't stop laughing.</p> <p><strong>ADDENDUM:</strong> Adams' followup post, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20170223152802/http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-22-beyond-fake-news-how-google-just-became-fake-search-by-blacklisting-independent-journalism.html" rel="nofollow">Beyond fake news… How Google just became FAKE SEARCH by blacklisting independent journalism</a>, is even more hilariously epic in its overwrought language.</p> <p>I can't help but post this clip to indulge my schadenfreude:</p> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/48H34ukFe8g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe><p> ADDENDUM #2: Apparently, now Adams is trying to sell his readers on the idea that Google's delisting of NaturalNews.com is a prelude to, well, just look at the title: <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20170223234538/http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-02-23-red-alert-fascist-google-begins-purge-of-pro-trump-websites-as-prelude-to-massive-false-flag-or-coup-attempt.html">RED ALERT: Fascist Google begins PURGE of pro-Trump websites as prelude to massive false flag or coup attempt</a>. I wonder what Mikey will have to say when that purge and coup attempt never happen.</p> </div> <span><a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a></span> <span>Wed, 02/22/2017 - 19:00</span> <div class="field field--name-field-blog-tags field--type-entity-reference field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Tags</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/antivaccine-nonsense" hreflang="en">Antivaccine nonsense</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/complementary-and-alternative-medicine" hreflang="en">complementary and alternative medicine</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/medicine" hreflang="en">medicine</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/news-weird" hreflang="en">News of the Weird</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a href="/tag/politics" hreflang="en">Politics</a></div> <div class="field--item"><a 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field--label-inline"> <div class="field--label">Categories</div> <div class="field--items"> <div class="field--item"><a href="/channel/social-sciences" hreflang="en">Social Sciences</a></div> </div> </div> <section> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353863" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487808842"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I wonder if Adams knows what he did and is shouting conspiracy in spite of knowing better, of he really doesn't know and sincerely believes he was targeted by "the man".</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353863&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="TLLzqov1qUX6qaQW_j_UeFxUZAbq6S9SwFvRSxlLzXc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dorit Reiss (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353863">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353864" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487809083"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh how I laughed.</p> <p>Adams has put up a new doorway to his site: Natural.News which Google is finding.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353864&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1Tm3_8bUrtIVWsYe49LUUfF5IwvENybwQwY35x9UCg0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353864">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353865" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487810029"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I have to wonder, naturally, whether Google’s decision to delist NaturalNews.com is part of its attempt to clean up fake news.</p></blockquote> <p>That was my first thought too.<br /> As for Adams's whining:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48H34ukFe8g">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48H34ukFe8g</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353865&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uyXyXNAhHGw6bWF16Lrc9FvDMsWkqYD7EiuLITPDJr0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Julian Frost (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353865">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353866" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487810076"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Why does Adams care about the Gazoogle anyway? Wasn't everyone supposed to be using GoodGopher, his own proprietary front-end alternative, by now?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353866&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BcXjKFjv5DskppgTm2ttLIxIt5XV1NshJeUbTnpbca8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353866">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353867" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487811336"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>I wonder if Adams knows what he did and is shouting conspiracy in spite of knowing better, of he really doesn’t know and sincerely believes he was targeted by “the man”.</i></p> <p>His entire career for the last two decades is built on scamming and grifting. It seems unlikely that he has been <b>innocently</b> exploiting a loophole in the Goofle ranking algorithms in order to raise his profile, and is now <b>genuinely</b> bewildered and aggrieved because the loophole closed. I suspect that Adams is now all butthurt and victimhood because that's what professional grifters do in these days of personal-responsibility-for-poor-people-only (<i>viz</i> Milo Y.).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353867&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8oP4DeRAaC6wNabMhzMqjG-iDBgBAn-ioliVA9pe0wQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353867">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353868" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487812299"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"fraudulently altering scientific studies, conducting medical experiments on children"</p> <p>He must be talking about (no longer a doctor) Andrew Wakefield.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353868&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="L2Cq2Zw7G8bvUkngU0N2cN0yu5YPHA2J5zZMG3gAtWg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Stuartg (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353868">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353869" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487812943"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I would call the delisting a case of too little too late, this should have been done well over a decade ago.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353869&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5v7NwVkt51dZQvmwIpsNS9iSRL8gn9DvUgX4v7Wiq9A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Graham (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353869">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353870" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487813688"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Late last week, I received a direct threat that warned if I did not take steps to destroy Alex Jones and InfoWars, I would be targeted for destruction in a campaign of smears, censorship and defamation.</p></blockquote> <p>I guess that subjects the whole "always packin' heat," ah, thing to quite an icy shower.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353870&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rJAi_O_-ifXwtkgb4Uuq_bG0BEbg1uiTyiK6lbmCUG0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353870">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353871" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487814237"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Wasn’t everyone supposed to be using GoodGopher, his own proprietary front-end alternative, by now?</p></blockquote> <p>It's too bad that he's not businessman enough to see this as an opportunity to sell crank- dynamo-powered appliances to keep his marks in contact. The bandwidth of packet radio or moonbounce might limit certain core functionality, of course.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353871&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SJX5sNpuKO2hW_22SY-zpmJgzQEJ5IuKUeKay8V8VOY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353871">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353872" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487814557"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>when [Milo Yiannopoulos] spoke way too blithely about pedophilia, even appearing to defend it, that was too much</i></p> <p>More <b>advocating</b> than 'defending'. I think he was really attacking the quaint outmoded concept of "consent', and trying to portray age of consent laws as just another example of liberal tyranny. Pandering to his audience.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353872&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5iOKqDS0g9-wqt9X-W6ZPU1auWmcv0lbe0SFRhBAiRw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353872">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353873" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487815316"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Next on the (wish) list: Food Babe, Mercola, Age of Autism, TruthVac, Erin the Health Nut.</p> <p>I'm positive I am forgetting quite a few.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353873&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2n_L1LyhzJHSaU84rwxFnkjzsW7yhoSJfUw8ONitP6E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Francois (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353873">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353874" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487816082"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Was it Gary Null who was calling for the Trump gubblement to take over the mainstream media and close them down, in the interests of Freeze Speech? Or some other wazzcock?</p> <p>My F<i></i>UCKSGIVEN ALERT status has been downgraded to zero.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353874&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ftgDLwntx58V1LAyfgeTdGtyDRXUXRVMuu_HDb0MwhA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353874">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353875" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487816787"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hi Orac, I updated the article today, and as of now, NaturalNews.com is definitely still missing from Google and completely de-indexed. Bing is showing 193,000 pages in their index.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353875&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="C5TVUNXgHXybNwu-5N_otzSZrhGimy8m6GT6PoyqWEc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Len (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353875">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353883" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487827528"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Too bad for Bing...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353883&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tO9FZsn630zpK2qvpESdDDaMfXyfR_Eyb_2qkb-q9pA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353883">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353875#comment-1353875" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Len (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353876" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487817082"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Go away Travis.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353876&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bt6Gi-3UCXfN1shtXQok_4Uux_ivrU5wYNKcB_7UvHg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Julian Frost (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353876">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353877" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487819240"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The sensitivity on your Travis detector may turned up too high.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353877&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Rod6DbIU5P7jhQbgMw1g4ZgK5AMCSqBVagvMHI20j_w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353877">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353881" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487827147"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yep. Not Travis.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353881&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tHDV1yUocGdpi_dRUEFpG0RMa_rNLDJyNxiZkcdOSKE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353881">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353877#comment-1353877" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353878" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487820295"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It might also possible that Google delisted him due to malvertisement on his site, which has increased massively of late.<br /> Malware being sent by an advertisement, advertised by one of the various ad sites used by many a webmaster and is currently being cracked down upon by Google and other search engine (and ad websites) owners.<br /> Currently, a napkin estimate has been around one hundred fold increase in such malvertisements.<br /> I'm both seeing this individually on various websites *and* in signature sets sent by NIPS/NIDS service providers over just this past month.<br /> The crap has gone very seriously and badly off of the wire in that score. Added, ad sites that hijack the host page, shooting one straight to the targeted video ad, which is something witnessed just within the past 24 hours.</p> <p>Regardless, good riddance to bad rubbish.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353878&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CYTVRRj2hUYIJCUadbWTepBGqQ0E14VXhCtZceFsHyY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353878">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353882" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487827501"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh, that was definitely my first suspicion. Adams could very well have been doing something Google doesn't like to game his SEO and Google finally noticed. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if that's what happened.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353882&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1qtTeKrKm9jf8fup-FwbM-AkRziMzWDiFtc34KCglZU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353882">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353878#comment-1353878" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353879" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487824878"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's nice to see that Google and Yahoo in Canada have also dropped (UN)naturalNews.com. For amusements sake, I checked out eh original evil (Bing) and the site is the first hit. The same applies to duckduckgo.com. Would have been so much sweeter if the site had of been wiped from all the major search engines. Oh well. Let the lies and stupidity propagate.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353879&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8wh1WTDpkokOr74tbdYrylp53LWFSc4WwNPhQC8jHmc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous Pseudonym (not verified)</span> on 22 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353879">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353880" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487826089"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Alas, hat strongly suggests malvertisement.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353880&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tIqjybdWynoXAboE1w8HjI2AiPR1KXVmx-NfhCKM-Cs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353880">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353879#comment-1353879" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous Pseudonym (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353884" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487831828"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I like the idea that sentience exists in Google's server farms and this intelligent being has correctly surmised that Adams is the antithesis of sentience.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353884&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="h5jU_KGjPTam2gnvCtDVSBnJhshbMX5q254tIlY8BME"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Hickie (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353884">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353885" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487837130"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Also possible that they had a plan to give a more minor penalty to sites that continue to publish debunked info and it went a little haywire. That's what we need to push all on the quack sites down in the rankings for real medical and science search terms.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353885&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6SAb3_DB9flk6IUA2jZ2C_SlDAbHGFxeWi5KkGy9dC4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Vincent Iannelli, MD (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353885">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353886" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487837243"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Sadly, instead of expressing solidarity, Adams' cohorts in med-woo seem to be ignoring his victimization by the Google Conspiracy. For instance, Mercola is going his merry way, while Dr. Oz is concentrating on "teatoxing".</p> <p>"Naturopathic doctor Pina Logiudice explains how teatoxing at home can help you slim down and reduce bloat and water weight."</p> <p>How can these guys ignore a threat the laps at the very foundation of our liberty and threatens impending global depopulation??!?!?!?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353886&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8aES8RWX4FkkcjUtsibKLwh3SVxRaa1ioWk4CwUrXnM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353886">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353887" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487838371"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>when [Milo Yiannopoulos] spoke way too blithely about pedophilia, even appearing to defend it, that was too much</p></blockquote> <p>One of the few bright lines in politics is that you don't want to be caught in bed with a dead girl or a live boy. In Milo's case, it was the latter.</p> <blockquote><p>He also fancies himself a rapper and musician, but the less said about his rapping and vocal stylings, the better.</p></blockquote> <p>So would I be better off listening to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Foster_Jenkins">Florence Foster Jenkins</a>? A compilation of her recordings was released with the subtitle <i>Murder on the High C's</i>.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353887&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9Kl2keyV2jttMIk5ZtarHF9S0rqIj734C-KFtyCh3F0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353887">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353888" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487838432"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Sadly, instead of expressing solidarity, Adams’ cohorts in med-woo seem to be ignoring his victimization by the Google Conspiracy.</p></blockquote> <p>There is no honor among thieves.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353888&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Aq23Sth8yb6ti33a__X-tD9bptTwtjK4Ob_owxic42I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353888">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353889" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487839756"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Are you really THAT noaive? Yes, it's the same thing. Glad Google is finally throwing out the trash. "I have to wonder, naturally, whether Google’s decision to delist NaturalNews.com is part of its attempt to clean up fake news. To be honest, as much as I despise Adams and his website, I’m not sure that NaturalNews.com qualifies as fake news. Adams rarely makes up stories out of whole cloth. Rather, like every good propagandist he takes existing news stories and information sources, cherry picks from them, and then weaves them together into a deceptive, biased tale designed to rile up his readers by confirming their conspiracy theories, all while misrepresenting science and evidence to fuel his quackery-supporting narratives. That’s why I don’t really consider NaturalNews.com to be a fake news site, but more like a whackaloon conspiracy theory and quackery website. I realize that that could be a distinction without a true difference."</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353889&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="jxO4C619yp8qvfH85IkftU9oFAcwYsULoM_GDVWul3s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Frank Swanson (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353889">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353890" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487840087"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Orac writes,</p> <p>On the other hand, it’s a fine line between what Adams does and fake news; I’m not always sure where I’d draw it.</p> <p>MJD say,</p> <p>I have similar thoughts about Respectful Insolence (RI) and Orac's "antivaccine" standards.</p> <p>In my opinion, if a person accepts at least one vaccine, or allows their child to receive at least one vaccine, they can not be labeled "anti-vaccine" or an "antivaxxer".</p> <p>Thus, using this criteria it is my opinion that Orac often spreads "Fake News" when placing individuals like Andrew Wakefield, RFK, Jr., and Robert DeNiro on the RI "anti-vaccine" hit list.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353890&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ArFqfK_T-ADLD40PGLmNRIgSj_y66IHKqWQauriL5Zs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael J. Dochniak (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353890">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353891" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487840720"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>As much as I detest Naturalnews.com and Mike Adams, I feel shocked, scared, and not one bit surprised. This is a warning to ALL OF US.</p> <p>We have put our intellectual freedom in the hands of a private company that DOES NOT have our best interests at heart. Intellectual freedom, unlike free speech, is freedom of expression given by a private entity. Google can provide it or not, at its pleasure. </p> <p>Intellectual freedom given or not given by Google matters because for many users it is THE ONLY search engine and many don't know how to use a locator bar or bookmarks. They have the Google pages as their home page, and the Google search box is their locator bar. Delisting from Google can mean your site disappears. </p> <p>This means not only loyal fans and readers of Mike Adams' swill can't reach him unless they know the base URL and have ten nimble fingers, and are on a device with a reasonable keyboard, but also critics of quackery and students studying quackery (Adam's work is primary source for that subject) also have a tougher time accessing him. </p> <p>Google should not decide who gets to easily access what, but they do. What worries me this morning is who is next. </p> <p>What Mike Adams should be doing is teaching his users about other search engines. Yahoo (Formerly Altavista) and Bing, are mainstream search engines that may or may not follow Google's suit. Qrobe.it is a meta search engine with enhanced privacy, and my go-to engine. Then there is always the locator bar. Nearly all browsers have one, even mobile browsers. Nearly all browsers have bookmarks. Touch typing is a wonderful skill. Alas, he is wasting a good, teachable moment. </p> <p>As for the rest of us, any of us can be next, since we have no idea how Google operates. Keep those ten wiggling fingers nimble even on a mobile keyboard.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353891&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3w_2A4OCZmkk5MuvPh17ZMMmAAB-dvQzhtoYmbbKPaU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">EileenK (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353891">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353892" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487841238"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@27/Eric Lund: Not quite; Milo <i>was</i> the "live boy", as you put it; what happened was he spoke positively of his own molestation at 17 by an older priest and was defending other gay males having such relationships. Still very gross (and honestly a little saddening), but he wasn't the adult in the personal situation he was defending.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353892&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="MZpTuFdXfCYuuSwVpTo82bjfP-24znIOxUy2t1YRHwE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Hoya (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353892">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353893" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487841561"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Still - this does suggest potentially ominous implications.</p> <p>Though Google does exist on the corporate plane, with no Official Governmental Authority (well, not counting certain functional overlaps with NSA), its role as gatekeeper does lend it a basic regulatory function.</p> <p>While I know of nothing positive at all to say about Adams, this particular shutdown could, in other circumstances, be turned against others - even the Respectfully Insolent. Let's say a respectable site (e.g., mayoclinic.org) gets hit with a malware infestation &amp;/or a big malpractice suit &amp;/or a major PR goof - could they be erased from search results? Could the Trump/Sessions Justice Dept get a court order to delist an operation they consider Fake News®?</p> <p>A few years ago, some spam-meisters apparently raided an address list from a relatively minor ISP (which I happen to use) and started a spate of obnoxious emails spoofing addresses from that domain. AT&amp;T noticed - and for a while, none of my personal emails could get through to anyone using an AT&amp;T account. That got cleared up, eventually, somehow (not having an AT&amp;T account, I never could reach anybody within that customers-only! organization to register a complaint), but it did sensitize me to the power of arbitrary Internet blockage and its potential abuse.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353893&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="q4ckUVn5Pxw-ZkWjS0q7kX4E0GmHWam6S0KULKkJz7U"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pierce R. Butler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353893">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353894" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487842098"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Despite the fact that some people may find this as stifling "free speech," Google (like FaceBook) is well within its right as a corporation to list or not list whatever it wants.</p> <p>That's just a fact of life on the modern day internet.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353894&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yXgtIoMtCLFo1vrI2kFN3andB9G6XCZZX3jkIKZt0U0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353894">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353895" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487842965"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Home page comes up for me fine today. I suspect that Adams is getting jumpy because he knows that, if not now then soon, Google will manually tweak the algorithms in ways that will be very damaging to his profits.</p> <p>Although clicks for most of his products will be very low value, a few cents mostly, he will watch the data very very closely. Occasionally there can be drop-outs for no explicable reason, but it's highly unlikely that the entire site would be "blacklisted".</p> <p>The whole "alternative fact" thing that Trump has set off is bound to lead to a lot of money being spent on the credibility of search technologies, meaning that a site like Adams' will still be there, but his material being downranked to index pages that nobody ever reaches with standard keyword searches.</p> <p>Can't wait.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353895&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="huSaEzGR4Rk1NwIYLTAJx95qaX9PYnsKkeTmhqPFSHM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Brian Deer (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353895">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353896" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487844090"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I do quite love that Mikey goes straight to the conspiracy, there is nothing else that could possibly be happening. I suppose that does whip up his followers more than a post describing the more mundane reasons this type of thing happens.</p> <p>But I also would not at all be surprised if it turns out he was playing some SEO games which Google's system did not like, and found himself penalized.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353896&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="C5MiX_n_ScQayI7TmvlQ12jOOKCUbPdc4XLsylii_2w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353896">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353897" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487844969"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>While I know of nothing positive at all to say about Adams, this particular shutdown could, in other circumstances, be turned against others – even the Respectfully Insolent. Let’s say a respectable site (e.g., mayoclinic.org) gets hit with a malware infestation &amp;/or a big malpractice suit &amp;/or a major PR goof – could they be erased from search results? Could the Trump/Sessions Justice Dept get a court order to delist an operation they consider Fake News®?</p></blockquote> <p>These are good questions. We know (and Orac has posted on this subject in the past) that anti-vaxers have gamed the Facebook abuse reporting system to silence their critics. Somebody could figure out how to game Google's system to get sites they don't like delisted. Google's algorithms have been gamed in the past (most famously, the group of left-wing bloggers who successfully conspired to make then-President George W. Bush's official White House bio the top result of a search for "miserable failure"). We know that Google will tweak their algorithm once they figure out how people are gaming it, but it will take time to identify and fix such problems.</p> <p>I would not worry about the government here. The First Amendment rules against prior restraint do reply to them, and more importantly, there are precedents for allowing fake news as free speech (specifically, Fox News).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353897&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="g2i19kt2vp6odiLONvhkw4KyTGyMT9kkcbJftsucGcs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353897">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353898" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487845953"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Considering he promotes his own search engine which conveniently strips out science or evidence based sites, I really have zero sympathy. </p> <p>I have no idea why his site got delisted but I suspect it was less to do with fake news and more to do with whatever shady advertising, SEO tactics or other sleaze he was pulling off to elevate his site in the google rankings.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353898&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8JmyyDQPbBquigFxArQlZueDg-I_5H6N_D8lAC9o43c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Adam (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353898">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353899" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487846103"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It looks like it was only temporary (darn it).</p> <p>I seem to be able to google NN just fine.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353899&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iywkd7VKD3xXCFL2gHZTQbWl1M5HTEEsWqdJGrd9IEg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Johnny (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353899">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353900" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487846932"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It is shocking to see how many Americans (I presume most of you must be) have such a low information quotient. Amerika has become an echo chamber of sheep, bleating for more toxic food, more toxic pharma, more enslavement. You people really need to expand your reading lists and get with the human program.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353900&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BTAzQBFnJuTxyc2i6LvcGBJaa4JqPKeOOlBH_IzVrRk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">libertas (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353900">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353901" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487847549"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Johnny - NaturalNews.com still not showing up in Google results. Although Natural.News is still there.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353901&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="v9gAF6hdvJzvMRZoLLpan5FOeIdntuQbVP3J-wCuTb8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rebecca Fisher (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353901">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353902" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487847704"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm still just seeing the shadow NN site listed on Google.</p> <p>I expect the original site and all its glorious articles to be listed again before long, as whatever was pissing off the Lords of Google will be resolved and they will have deemed Adams to have learned his lesson (the NN take will be that Google privileges were restored due to protestations of the outraged citizenry, but Evil remains a dire threat (and buy my supplements)).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353902&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uwX8qfaDFYTkGWdh3PaE75uwoYjCwRaGXoNvL5cr86c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353902">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353903" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487847779"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>More advocating than ‘defending’. I think he was really attacking the quaint outmoded concept of “consent’, and trying to portray age of consent laws as just another example of liberal tyranny. Pandering to his audience.</p></blockquote> <p>Not to defend Milo in any way, but I personally don't think it's necessarily impossible for there to be a consensual relationship between a teenager and an older man. One of my best friends had his first serious relationship when he was 16 with a guy in his late 20s, and it was totally mutual and consensual.</p> <p><a href="https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/02/what-well-tolerate-and-what-we-wont">This article</a> has a good take on it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353903&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9i_BNqJcaelEnSazPgj8zaVP94sXZ-Z3Do9HSxqmZVE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353903">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353904" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487848054"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The shut-down of NN'S indexing, if intentional, is censorship. The "fake news" meme was spun by moneyed corporate interests to justify exactly that - censorship.<br /> It span out of control when the alternative media turned it around and used the term against the "real media"'. Now Trump is using it against them, and rightly so in many cases. Now things are going into a higher gear. Corporate interests are pulling out the stops.<br /> Google, Facebook, Twitter, ad companies can shut down Natural News, Infowars, Breitbart etc because they control the network element of the internet.<br /> And yes, of course it's a conspiracy.<br /> How would they shut down Trump? Political ouster conspiracy?<br /> Bullet?<br /> Interesting times. Let's hope reason and logic prevail, not emotion.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353904&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xgSp4W5dgqO1PFVRB8EXipeZJIA-Vq3mPjwznOxxu5g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353904">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353905" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487848134"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I seem to be able to google NN just fine.</p></blockquote> <p>No, it is delisted. Search Google for "site:naturalnews.com." You will get zero returns. The entire site is delisted. You might get Natural.news, which is a shadow site, but the main site is down.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353905&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xmTpNEGmU4qt_sXZNlF8EFpyYIFNojbGEOyhNT-z8W4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353905">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353906" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487848309"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>wtf is wrong with this site. Science? Really? Or are you just media shills. Rather than giving a flying fuck about freedom of speech and the press, you have bowed down to slave masters and are now part of the garbage infesting the planet. Did you get a promise of "peerage" or simply to be left alone and ALLOWED to continue your pablum postings? Hmmm?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353906&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="dmutEa1TeZc3Aoiklb5lF-zhR-ZyJH__aVn4Dg5g5dY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Namma (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353906">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353907" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487848452"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Home page comes up for me fine today. I suspect that Adams is getting jumpy because he knows that, if not now then soon, Google will manually tweak the algorithms in ways that will be very damaging to his profits.</p></blockquote> <p>Well, yes. The website is still up. The NaturalNews.com domain is just delisted in Google. No Google search results will return any links within that domain.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353907&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ygYtS5xQMcsMrmCfF2v8NWIqu1aijq5XbQwSHtwmDWc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353907">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353908" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487848678"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh, goody. Methinks some Alex Jones/Mike Adams/Donald Trump fans have discovered the joy of Insolence. :-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353908&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="f2pjuFv-zW6zaFuJmuY0Gp_3pxW5VAlXIlUSBGXyCzY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353908">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353909" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487848908"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>and now it is gone for me too.</p> <p>Dafuk did I see - maybe something cached?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353909&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="XNcXiyLww-Uk4FFMqhCGQVNpCTy8i1HUx0YTd0ewNBk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Johnny (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353909">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353910" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487849540"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"warned...I would be targeted...</p> <p>"...blacklisted by Google, entirely without warning."</p> <p>So, which is it, you whackjob? Were you or were you not warned?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353910&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Ovo40CkF4pcrAisj6TquHIprrnUnQl5QUvzqpuZeE4A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dan (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353910">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353911" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487849774"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I just did the experiment myself. Safari v. 10.0.3 under MacOS 10.10.5 (Yosemite), in case anyone reading cares about such details.</p> <p>The autosuggestion feature in Safari (which is independent of Google) suggested Mike's real site. But it's not there in the Google search results, at least not on the first page. Result #1 is the mirror site Mike set up. This blog post is #4.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353911&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="m2foXp2ockAYCXQOGmypNSU5pfQcGSxoIBSXSSP0CEM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353911">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353912" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487850205"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>This blog post is #4.</p></blockquote> <p>On further consideration: This probably accounts for the influx of nyms we haven't seen before. Quite possibly, Mike and friends are encouraging his peeps to do exactly that Google search and give people like Orac a piece of their minds. Or perhaps they are coming up with that idea independently.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353912&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SoXU68Ze0OA2puLXxGAhKCT1NPQwWMbfC5XQpS_j8JE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353912">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353913" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487850505"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Or perhaps they are coming up with that idea independently."</p> <p>I doubt that these true believers are capable of coming up with independent ideas.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353913&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="71tZyz5jNaGiUMHrF2JPrbeLnzKc8KYX0akNIe9nP10"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">rs (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353913">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353914" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487850917"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I for one am very happy to see Natural News delisted. </p> <p>I get tired of explaining to my students why it is not a suitable site to source for their papers.</p> <p>Honestly, I'd rather let them use Wikipedia.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353914&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="O1X2paxd14Ogdkw-mJ4eTb2cTlE55sgnEbRLMkAAwqs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353914">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353915" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487851191"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yes, yes, by all means. If we disagree with them or any of their beliefs we must silence them. And we can. And we should. We are liberals.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353915&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="af0FwJSWeF372v9gk69pHUk02vEuVx_wjI4SEA9B168"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">William Roth (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353915">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353916" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487851306"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Also possible that they had a plan to give a more minor penalty to sites that continue to publish debunked info and it went a little haywire.</p></blockquote> <p>I somehow doubt that GreenMedInfo would be doing just fine if this were the case.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353916&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="U4HHXh5VGq4MLyEX6YKOwTEU5t_473z14SQhIBVRs40"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353916">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353917" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487851893"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>wtf is wrong with this site. Science? Really? Or are you just media shills.</p></blockquote> <p>That's <b><i>pharma</i></b> shills to you, babycakes.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353917&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9nop0dCo16b3HUve7Zjsm9YHpVweow76zvpd_Rd2jn0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353917">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353918" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487851915"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>NN is all listed using millionshort; I *thought* it did a live polling of Google but I guess it could be cached links.</p> <p><a href="https://millionshort.com/search?keywords=naturalnews.com&amp;shopping=&amp;country=&amp;advertising=&amp;chat=&amp;remove=0">https://millionshort.com/search?keywords=naturalnews.com&amp;shopping=&amp;coun…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353918&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="QYSObMxxDY2HcGtfjSPR5A1bTHJWIPGwlm6VTFyFGY0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Gilbert (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353918">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353919" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487852447"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Let’s say a respectable site (e.g., mayoclinic.org) gets hit with a malware infestation &amp;/or a big malpractice suit &amp;/or a major PR goof – could they be erased from search results?</p></blockquote> <p>I think that might not be a terrible thing. If mayoclinic.org got hit with a serious malware infestation, temporarily delisting it could be a good way of limiting the damage. Just because we might consider the Mayo Clinic one of the "the good guys" most of the time does not mean it shouldn't be quarantined if it becomes a risk. That'd obviously a be a seriously big deal, but it's something to think about. We all know large, legitimate organizations are not invulnerable to hackers.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353919&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="crw7RnpLKKS1u642Aiy4e5CoyMxI9hh0Uw9IGLslqp8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Calli Arcale (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353919">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353920" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487852614"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>That’s just a fact of life on the modern day internet.</p></blockquote> <p>"Their machines, their rules" is <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22tim+bolen%22+spews">the same as it ever was</a>. Nobody was obligated to take the packets of all comers <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet_Death_Penalty">back in the Good Old Days</a>.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353920&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8xZBLS7E-OATPSmDYJlwFpvg9CkVHTAbBAWb9ZSSdeQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353920">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353921" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487853089"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Taken to another extreme, it's as if Mikey has all along been playing by the rules of <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39062663">Russian cyberpropaganda</a>: "it is often not even seeking to be believed. Instead, it has as one aim undermining the notion of objective truth and reporting being possible at all".</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353921&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1dpNkY4Pbc9pgZKzGm9iSIGSKkhn69RGkcR5m3HCXGA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lighthorse (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353921">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353922" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487853237"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm no fan of Natural News and have mocked it myself. That said, this is a chilling development. </p> <p>The battle of ideas must be won through REASON and CRITICAL THINKING. Not censorship. </p> <p>Anyone who applauds this move by Google is an enemy of Democracy. I really find it hard to believe a "Science Blog" would be cheering this on. Scary.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353922&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Q4R8QLrTiv0jp25oi2Oo2RtgsPY5cVTvdMFfXOER-xQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Tom Siebert (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353922">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353923" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487853249"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I think that might not be a terrible thing. If mayoclinic.org got hit with a serious malware infestation, temporarily delisting it could be a good way of limiting the damage.</p> <p>G—le has already sort of done that, with the "<a href="https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/45449">this site may harm your computer</a>" warning, which I imagine tends to put a good number of people off proceeding (and has generated whining in and of itself).</p></blockquote> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353923&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iHaFibUzNN8LzXqO6QzMM0zffXHjKOCptS4siu_0-tU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353923">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353924" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487853781"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The usual bots hard at play. If Adams' site didn't pose a serious threat to the NWO agenda, there'd be no reason to delist it now, would there?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353924&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="brpDOWvxcUQz0QZSKqaszmah5vd-KcjbWibvGfNs-1Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">jimbo (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353924">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353925" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487855151"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, for years he's been saying how g--gle et al are *hopelessly* biased towards the lamestream (tm) so perhaps he'll find a way to direct his thralls towards his own alternative.</p> <p>Seriously.</p> <p>Over the past 2 years, he's been shilling his own news sites and fetch engine.</p> <p>Although I can barely keep count, hasn't he attempted to launch various enterprises, sites, businesses, cons etc over the years? IIRC, he tried real estate in Ecuador, franchises for food products like NZ green lipped mussels or suchlike, survivalist gear, a social media site, 3D printing, home farms ... on and on.</p> <p>He;s not a man, he's a money generating engine.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353925&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="UBaSHJ6yERgk9D5nJMbVib98WoItk3Y3mcNMk5hj-NU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353925">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353926" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487855230"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ herr doktor bimler:</p> <p>I beleive that that wazzcock was Mikey himself.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353926&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cVyQteJCpgX4nhSEItv-M6QqsCQGWyd3ZB6hKrpx_3Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353926">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353927" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487855334"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Google is a corporation, it can make whatever decisions it wants to preserve it's value. That is capitalism isn't it?</p> <p>Suddenly you want the government or someone to step in? Hypocrite</p> <p>Milo losing book deal, pure business. Suck it up. Pun unintentional. </p> <p>This is private enterprise doing what it does best. What you all keep begging to happen. Unfettered capitalism but now is working against you. Snowflake.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353927&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hu3GAXta8c0QIa3cggESReSdgAlOadxd8EFrjikhREM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Caleigh Fisher (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353927">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353928" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487855599"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>In similar fashion, the Nullmacher has INSISTED that' he's a victim of cyberwar and CIA intervention because of the *dangerous* material he discusses and posts on his prn site.<br /> He is a threat to the government and mainstream.<br /> He's always being hacked like Sharyl Atkisson.</p> <p>I suppose that it may be a measure of a brave rebel's value to the resistance:<br /> if the powers-that-be fear him and take action against him, he must <a href="mailto:f@cking">f@cking</a> rule.</p> <p>One of the reasons I survey these fellows ( and gals) beyond informing others of their nonsense is because their hijinks and inept posturibgs anbd raaaamblings amuse me endlessly.</p> <p>It;s a hard life, we need entertainment,</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353928&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="UWwDds2v_ErEm_92JDJDAL66a1BHMhTr5XRMfY0xSFU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353928">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353929" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487855710"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>that is, posturings and ramblings</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353929&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="jAjOGsZj1Mc1ydQwe7Bh8cIFU8llz4T62hardTZWAWA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353929">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353930" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487855977"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>survivalist gear,</p></blockquote> <p>Oh, he's still selling survivalist gear, the last I checked anyway, which was yesterday. It's specifically stores of <i>food</i> for survivalists, though, all APPROVED by the HEALTH RANGER!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353930&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Qg4i0rJAL9li0nDkW_ABgAloPMfl8B0bilR_SVtTFHc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353930">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353931" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487856240"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>New on NN...</p> <p>It seems that g--gle's action is part of a PURGE against pro-Trump sites leading to a false flag whatnot... er.. coup d'etat</p> <p>Blame it on the Times I suppose.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353931&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="76KFUji13l45DO7Am4EaI38CbOXtkcnSS_UC_0bxt58"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353931">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353932" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487856294"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>BTW, all of Mikey's newest articles are unhinged rants in the same vein as his original response to the delisting. He's now predicting a PURGE of all PRO-TRUMP SITES! (If only...)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353932&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7WY6KB5n-xun-5Jh8MJuLnq-pWWCikhc6glEm2eHp7Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353932">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353933" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487856375"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I see that Denice and I were typing at the same time.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353933&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7ytqT22VbjF71EbG7_kGvaq_k-opbqFH-naajgzF1bs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353933">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353934" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487856417"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I have it on good authority that Natural News was penalized by Google for a "sneaky mobile redirect" that broke their terms and conditions. This happens to a lot of sites. All Mike Adams has to do is fix it and file a reconsideration request to Google and it is all fixed. I will come back and post a link to a story on this when its posted.</p> <p>It will be interesting to see if he does that, as it will not play into his conspiracy narrative.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353934&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="riKPmVIGse61p9OFjSL4herE8Gz84hy0VpIVKfohsM8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353934">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353935" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487856551"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ JP:</p> <p>I know about him since 2007-8.<br /> He never stops in his attempts to make money.</p> <p>The other idiot has a plethora of business ops most of which fail and are never mentioned again. A food co-op, a school for health coachery, MLMs to sell his products,<br /> Endless crap.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353935&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="XJ3reNnAknQjiYZd_Y_eYImg9PtJM1Y0JkfyWeADhFw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353935">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353936" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487856582"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If and when our Google Masters explain that they are targeting Fake News sites and delisting those that do not contribute to educated discourse, THEN we can wave our civil liberty banners and raise hell.</p> <p>To do so now would look silly if it turned out that the NN delisting was for some form of SEO misbehavior.</p> <p>"Anyone who applauds this move by Google is an enemy of Democracy. I really find it hard to believe a “Science Blog” would be cheering this on."</p> <p>Enjoying a good laugh at the expense of Mike Adams and his bizarrely over-the-top conspiracy theorizing is hardly a threat to our democratic way of life.</p> <p>"Did you get a promise of “peerage” or simply to be left alone and ALLOWED to continue your pablum postings?"</p> <p>We don't need no steenking titles, as long as those shill buck$ keep arriving on schedule every month.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353936&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bTVFRuZtDBggCi_a0DWjrDCNhYmBqB2ouMPZFHquI9g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353936">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353937" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487856871"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>re 'playing the martyr'</p> <p>Someone ( not me) who is good at photoshopping needs to put Mikey's face on a Renaissance image of the martyr, St Sebastian ( although I venture that the saint was in much better shape and looked better partially nude).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353937&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="oWu395cYCCU26qgM-VFuvcIhEZCD0cxj4UcgJOIgliI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353937">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353938" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487857435"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I’m no fan of Natural News and have mocked it myself. That said, this is a chilling development.<br /> @Tom Siebert<br /> "Anyone who applauds this move by Google is an enemy of Democracy...."</p> <p>Nope; this was simple manipulative violation of Google's terms and conditions by Natural News. Lots of sites have been removed from Google for the same thing.</p> <p>Mike Adams was being very disingenuous with the facts over this.</p> <p>Apparently, this is what he violated:<br /><a href="https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2721217">https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/2721217</a></p> <p>Move is about to come to about this (not from me), but as I said above, I will come back and post a link to the story when its published.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353938&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uj5944IV0kOzVmqAr_C-yWtTK-x6An8otpNuSPpQ-n0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353938">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353939" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487857639"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>I’m no fan of Natural News and have mocked it myself. That said, this is a chilling development. </i></p> <p>I am impressed how many visitors are no fans of Mikey and come here to argue that Goofle have some kind of <b>obligation</b> to expose their customers to whatever malware he chooses to post.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353939&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="R_pLDV63MT5My2AueA_Q9qT4ZWdxMzhk_h68wLLvrdQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353939">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353940" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487857895"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Sorry, I died not check post before posting - that "I’m no fan of Natural News and have mocked it myself. That said, this is a chilling development." was not from me, it was copied from @Tom Siebert above.</p> <p>Google have been removing sites from their search engine for years. They do it to any site that breaks their Webmaster Guidelines. That is all this is about, Natural News broke those Guidelines.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353940&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KU5XLuXyI_70xCFWQarkoJG_eKev2nHpqHU8kZXyxks"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353940">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353941" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487858392"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I listened to Mikey's podcast so you don't have to!</p> <p>Really, there is nothing there that is at all surprising. Google is the "Ministry of Peace," this is Communist China style censorship, etc.</p> <p>He says that perhaps NaturalNews will become even <i>more</i> popular if people hear that it's "censored" (censorship, I do not think that word means what you think it means), and will wonder: Oooooh, what kind of <i>dangerous</i> (ooo-wee-ooo, also, hints of Milo) information is this that Google doesn't want me to see? Wow, better tell my friends about it too!</p> <p>But there's probably no need to waste your time, it's not all that interesting.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353941&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="qobniSyGBPDgkot0Nh-Z3q7Wgl_efHiYz8SfiZztt3g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353941">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353942" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487859139"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>It seems that g–gle’s action is part of a PURGE against pro-Trump sites leading to a false flag whatnot… er.. coup d’etat</i></p> <p>Obligatory <a href="http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/M/M359/M359247.jpg">1066 illustration is obligatory</a>.</p> <p><i>All Mike Adams has to do is fix it and file a reconsideration request to Google and it is all fixed</i></p> <p>But Mikey's business model <b>depends</b> on using the sneaky redirects to bring traffic to his products, relying on the rigged Goofle hits to advertise them as something else. Can he <b>afford</b> to fix his redirection scam?</p> <p><i>needs to put Mikey’s face on a Renaissance image of the martyr, St Sebastian</i><br /> Indeed.</p> <blockquote><p>Not only was St Sebastian middle-aged and butch, he wasn't killed with arrows. Punctured, yes, but not killed. The perforated martyr was rescued from the stake and nursed back to health by St Irene of Rome – a woman, boys – before unwisely haranguing Diocletian for his paganism as he passed by on a litter. Unmoved by his tenacity, the emperor had Sebastian clubbed to death; his body was then dumped in Rome's sewers. Had history been less kind, he might have ended up as patron saint of poo.</p></blockquote> <p>Guido Reni painted 7 or 8 versions of Sebastian, and there are many times that number of cheap copies of Reni's versions, by later painters.. One of these days I plan to string them together into a jerky animated movie.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353942&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="H6gbdL_AdsFH82p-9ui9EahKX1B7sY2w_04g5YU8M7A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353942">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353943" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487859247"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>On the other hand, it’s a fine line between what Adams does and fake news; I’m not always sure where I’d draw it. </p></blockquote> <p>Sad fact about freedom of speech is that lying is literally a protected right. Technically, fake news is protected the same way fiction is protected --there is no constitutional allowance stipulating that posted news reports must be true. Where would the National Enquirer be if there were laws about this?</p> <p>I think we're seeing some watershed events taking place these days revolving around what freedom of speech actually involves with regard to the penetration of information technology into our culture. For the United States, specifically, our democratic republic style of government depends on the fidelity of common voters being able to make a certain statistical frequency of good choices about things they don't necessarily understand. If people in their schooling more frequently fail to gain a capacity to filter information sources for good sources and also more frequently overestimate their own capacity to make good judgements about topics on which they are not expert, we're liable to see increasing problems down the line in the fundamental veracity of self-governance --if we're not seeing such problems already, which I would contend we are! Some censorship, by companies like Google or by government, where the decision is kept out of the hands of uninformed laymen, may become fundamentally necessary just to insure social order.</p> <p>I think for freedom to continue to exist.... any freedom... you have to have respect for and understanding of the fundamental responsibilities for maintaining a functioning collective society despite what degrees of personal diversity any particular freedom allows. I think new laws always get written when people don't understand this. And especially since these responsibilities are actually always changing as we learn more about the world around us and as our civilization gets more populous and has no choice to alter how we interact with the world around us. Technically, science is the buffer by which any quality judgments happen and if science is politicized or lines of information become corrupt, it pretty much assures that nobody can make right choices about what a democratic government should do.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353943&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KVKK81BIRkU6LE-fPlrncQgW-kfnFyDok7AhkoeynXw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">viggen (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353943">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353944" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487860046"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Amerika has become an echo chamber of sheep,</i></p> <p>I think Pink Floyd used one of those when they were recording the Animals album.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353944&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4QCaOLtMn6IfuPqPwDvLwIHYylwYRB7rK5PJchXzWTY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353944">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353945" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487860109"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Here is the story from Search Engine Land:<br /><a href="http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-269998">http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-26…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353945&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rnzBvSvWXitpHtlZoRQS3UFwAwtkeLcv82Cm8oIkcgg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353945">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353946" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487860671"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Did you get a promise of “peerage” </i></p> <p>That intrigued me. Does Namma believe that the NWO and / or the Illuminati intend to reinstitute a system of aristocratic titles? Is this part of the wider alt-facts belief system?</p> <p>TRUFAX: The Frau Doktorin's mother used to call me 'Prince' in her final, rather confused years. I never figured out whether she believed me to be a minor member of the Danish royal family, or just an Alsatian dog.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353946&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="spk5e2Eur9yGkJSM1tp2gefU0J9OWno6kjrMFm9tuDk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353946">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353947" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487860872"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Why can't people be allowed to make up their own mind? I dont think censorship of differing opinions is helpful. Idk what this guy is selling or pushing but as long as it's not illegal let it go. Jeez. What I hate is people trying to tell me what I can and can't do.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353947&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="R5VegWOn9PLDXG4-KEKKvBZgjg1-Z-06LoIy4pjM_N8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">cheryl herritt (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353947">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353952" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861481"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@cheryl herritt - they were breaking Google's Webmaster guidelines. They were doing things that were artificially increasing their rankings by some manipulative technique. Google does not like it when sites try to manipulate their rankings. It was not about fake news or censorship.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353952&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="O-ncBTHJCFcSC0DRLiwN6pXyyF5ykJXXFnwtf4TXV4U"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353952">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353947#comment-1353947" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">cheryl herritt (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353948" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861194"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The stench of the sheep manure is so strong here! I like Mike Adams and Natural News. Its the horrendous storm of snowflakes, helped and supported by the MLM. The MLM has more interest in seeing where emotionally and confused transgenders take a SH*# THEY ARE THE PUBLISHERS OF FAKE NEWS TO POLITICALLY sway the opinion of people who have no critical thinking abilities. BAHA Bahaaa that's why they are sheep. Now go to your safe zones and grab a little pony and cry. Because TRUMP IS PRESIDENT. FAIR AND SQUARE, get over it! Support free speech! Not China intranet policies</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353948&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3vht6JFUPWmdeY231uR6D_AUN58nSrPwhhG2H0kFYNY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Teddy (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353948">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353949" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861303"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I do believe a link to this post must have been posted to a Facebook page or other social media site where there are a lot of Mike Adams and/or Donald Trump fans. Will TS try to sneak in here hidden among the newbies? Be vigilant, my friends. Be vigilant.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353949&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pNs3r6vMV8aXS1tlOhHyH8Ft6RB2FB7wMgE_zMwQf7c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353949">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353950" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861323"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>SUPPORT NATURAL NEWS and Mike Adams NOT CHINA INTRANET POLICIES that are seeping in the USA</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353950&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="qvY4N8NakTwUpSn_TULAVnMBkf8HuVKV6G2xo5teGos"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Teddy (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353950">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353951" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861418"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Teddy - you do realize that Google has no obligation to list any website on their search engine, right?</p> <p>Corporations have no duty to provide a platform for "free speech."</p> <p>Them's the breaks of modern capitalism &amp; our Constitution.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353951&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="YJcuNt1Eg0HuBrHzKFRTfL9k0K-Mt03xJgPx439GT30"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353951">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353953" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861530"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Be vigilant, my friends, be vigilant. He is wrong!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353953&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="x5h-vwA3W6Rtn3Y5j8AxD_DwdtRLam50Je2G83iqgf0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Teddy (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353953">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353954" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861649"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Be vigilant, my friends, be vigilant. He is wrong! Be respectful and thoughtful to the cause of communism.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353954&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_18q_Ld1F8aXUbVpAzcTQpGL9sezl_9NsSxooNBaiMQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Teddy (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353954">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353955" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861660"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Somehow Teddy forget to mention the chemtrails. I am disappoint.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353955&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kupBpj3QtHNzX3ppFIoV_XbtMBTPNqJ0JQc2eAGUyhU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353955">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353956" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861731"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Too much name calling here ... too much stupidity here as well. You're so afraid of him that you have to resort to childishness, just like all the snowflakes that do nothing but hate this, that or the other thing. YOU are the ridiculous ones, not Mike Adams. He might not be ALL he purports himself to be, but he's an honest man that stands miles above the likes of you. There's too much hate abounding these days, and Mike isn't the one perpetuating it. He'd be very happy if all of you twinkies would just shut up and get on with your lives. But, oh yeah, you can't do that because YOU DON'T HAVE A LIFE!! Nor do you want one ... too much responsibility ... way to hard without mommy and daddy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353956&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="swDHkAGJxuXOMDy14jXpFaPKoDsCNwg8K2IY0UdF-Z0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Katie (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353956">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1353958" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861920"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Mike Adams? An honest man?</p> <p>Ha.</p> <p>Hahahaha.</p> <p>Hahahahahahaha.</p> <p>Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!</p> <p>Best laugh I've had in ages.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353958&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="WdmR0nOkoEtNbnJLSn1rDRTKoZV3lNJJ_J7DJY2FDds"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353958">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353956#comment-1353956" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Katie (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353957" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487861855"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Where the elite and corporations guide your very thoughts to their cause. Hush Hush little sheeple. I will take care of you as I have done in the past. good day</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353957&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CisWe0vJTD3-zKOxGbJV2jwpgOQDPvMDUiKxjyTFPMQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Teddy (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353957">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353959" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862021"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Obviously such an intelligent crew over at NN.....</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353959&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OyajnuPQsoNNOklMaMmTOLRbx5Y_9L69MIpfmdMmWJs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353959">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353960" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862161"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Be respectful and thoughtful to the cause of communism.</p></blockquote> <p>OK.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353960&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="dO4nzuTlqy-sgxp-swLiSq2DzSaVS-iEhofrnsh5Wrw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353960">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353961" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862596"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>for those who think that Google is a private corporation, you're wrong, its a publically traded company, and it is more than 51% owned by Government hedge funds, so yes, this is technically censorship. </p> <p>Science blog can spout that vaccines are perfectly safe and don't cause autism, and call naturalnews a quack website, but its just an opinion. There is plenty of scientific evidence now, thanks to CDC research scientist whistleblowers who released the buried research from the 90's that the MMR vaccine can in fact cause autism in a certain segment of the population. this isn't a conspiracy, its fact. and the fact that the CDC itself owns 75% of all vaccine patents, means they have a biased agenda, and actual motive to suppress this data.</p> <p>go ahead, take the time to educate yourself, watch the documentary VAXXED, it will open your eyes.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353961&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ENqBZGB5X4d0O66kns0RzjRojoQmjipOXeGCBzLvFMM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Aaron Russell (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353961">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353962" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862623"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Mike Adams, good greif where did he take writing lessons? The quotes bits of his post remind me strongly of the style of Edgar Rice Burroughs (of John Carter of Mars/Barsoom and Tarzan fame), which is to say overwrought in the extreme. Which is fine when you're writing a serial about fantasy Mars, but maybe a bit much for a blog post about how Google is after you.</p> <p>And I want to point out this quote specifically "anti-establishment (and pro-Trump) ". Uh, dude, Mike, in case you haven't noticed Trump *won*. He is, by definition, the establishment, no matter how anyone feels about it.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353962&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Wg0o3uPImeaPNb-3alRVZCdMFOfps9r6bmxKZt7TpKE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353962">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353963" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862657"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I by no means support the foolishness he spouts, but, am i the only one bothered that google took it upon themselves to decide what we could search for.</p> <p> de-listing a registered domain is not what a search engine should be doing.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353963&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3qAZJ3-4elw85uhdFiT2D2u61ETHfheQV1szCwAzxq0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Shawn (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353963">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353975" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487866382"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Shawn<br /> "de-listing a registered domain is not what a search engine should be doing.'</p> <p>Google do this 100's of times a day.<br /> They only do it to those sites that use manipulative techniques to artificially increase their rankings in the search results. That affects the quality of Google's search results; so they take action.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353975&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lWtjf2-AHEVHXVI30qsQf8TS9a40HPRojsT-dBGIYLk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353975">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353963#comment-1353963" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Shawn (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353964" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862849"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Its the horrendous storm of snowflakes, helped and supported by the MLM."</p> <p>Actually, it's much more likely that multi-level marketers would rally to Adams' support.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353964&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xXjPL5EyF26MoZKZANgX1ObIKSQkvzQ_C7oG8Is5SAU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353964">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353965" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862890"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Lawrence @ # 95: <i>... Google has no obligation to list any website on their search engine...</i></p> <p>Dunno if this has been tested legally (and, IANAL), but if you operate a service that claims to search the entire Web - and it doesn't - does that open up a potential liability for fraud or misleading advertisement?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353965&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2ONyxweN_sgaczTbOhy4OG7kC3lnOQ87nKLTtlX5vuI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pierce R. Butler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353965">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353967" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862993"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Pierce R. Butler</p> <p>It has been tested legally. Google won easily</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353967&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="p7dkqvmRKYzTebQh2urycZmtAC7JCgygXcw6mzZWnMg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353967">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353965#comment-1353965" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Pierce R. Butler (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353966" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487862944"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Katie @ 99: You said "He might not be ALL he purports himself to be, but he’s an honest man". Do you see the inherit contradiction in that statement right there? </p> <p>Being honest means not claiming to be things you are not. Therefore if Mike Adams is not "ALL he purports himself to be" then he is *not* being honest.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353966&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VmO3Gs5e_e0JNgsIddcFpNDl0CalRvU79GjtVu3tJ18"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353966">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353968" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487863157"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'd take a look at Google's Terms and Conditions - including those for webmasters.</p> <p>They are fully within their right to delist any website that violates those T&amp;Cs.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353968&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kGFQ8XUCBI8Y2gci7IW8XjXpxhLKye-muaEm5L87-Os"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353968">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353969" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487863892"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Nothing screams "honest man" like using manipulative web development practices. If it was sneaky redirects, or other techniques like cloaking or link schemes to increase pagerank, then sorry, it is hard to feel bad about Google delisting the site. I do hope more details emerge at some point.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353969&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="491jsKtGac3WuG0Ex5qS25G8ah_8u8MByOTzXwsHskA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353969">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353970" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487864251"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>NN minions! Save yourselves while there is still time! While your overlord is lost in cyberspace break free of his bonds! You have nothing to lose but your chains!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353970&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aj1bPnPS5UZZed6Efuzrq-94a03NP4IdoKO-OHS2gNk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JDK (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353970">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353971" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487864506"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p># 83 viggen<br /><i>Sad fact about freedom of speech is that lying is literally a protected right. Technically, fake news is protected the same way fiction is protected </i> </p> <p>Only in the USA I suspect.<br /><a href="http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/a-law-against-lying-on-the-news">http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power/a-law-against-lying-on-the-news</a></p> <p>We also have hate speech laws. I believe Ann Coulter (sp?) cancelled a speech at the University of Ottawa when someone pointed this out to her.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353971&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uCGygLoEtvsvUXBXWHZBs8YPtnoj2GvWhX0v6aamV5g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">jrkrideau (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353971">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353972" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487864607"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Mike Adams? An honest man?</p></blockquote> <p>Only in the sense that <a href="http://www.shakespeare-navigators.com/JC_Navigator/JC_3_2.html#speech30">Shakespeare's Mark Antony calls Brutus "an honourable man"</a>.</p> <p>I don't have time at the moment to work up a full parody of the "Friends, Romans, countrymen" speech, but here's a quick attempt at two (almost but not exactly repeated verbatim several times) lines:</p> <p>Yet Adams is selling supplements;<br /> And Adams is an honourable man,</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353972&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="olPafhnIN6HbWH437-tFLYrY273KMhvUwE7OM2IXILA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353972">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353973" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487864721"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Did you get a promise of “peerage”</p></blockquote> <p>No. Pierage. We need places where we can tie up the yachts that we buy with our pharmashill earnings.</p> <blockquote><p>The stench of the sheep manure is so strong here!</p></blockquote> <p>The please remove your boots and change your underwear <i>before</i> you come in.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353973&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vQFOVTPY5Vn3yKoFWoQRpX2QmgEorVvM_07h2Lz6XpI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353973">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353974" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487864796"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>if you operate a service that claims to search the entire Web</i><br /> No-one makes that claim.</p> <p><i>Why can’t people be allowed to make up their own mind? I dont think censorship of differing opinions </i></p> <p>I take it that none of Mikey's defenders are using his GoodGopher "search engine" / indexing service, which <b>explicitly promises</b> to filter out dissonant facts and leave its users in a safe unchallenged bubble.</p> <p>I wonder again, why is Mikey so upset when his own search service is so much better and more popular than the evil Gazoogle?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353974&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OjdPV-BiVNlI_lUZqUOuTGD0xHNo11Z1aG7QuPb9Pu4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353974">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353976" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487866455"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Hattie<br /> "Is there anything I can do to ensure that this website gets delisted?"</p> <p>No. ScienceBlogs has done nothing that breaks googles terms and conditions. Natural News has, Its that simple.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353976&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="b9pSrMQEdI6sldEECWXAvnnRAD1SHpb-vtVy8HAGoo0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353976">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353977" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487866468"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I would personally prefer an echo chamber of small furry animals gathered together in a cave and grooving with a Pict.<br /> In fact that will be the name of my new search-engine company.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353977&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1FnYmaFaqDrnfcvU4IBd6aM0WrgSI0o3qY5JCmYpgr4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353977">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353978" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487868016"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hattie @120: You said " Big Food (and cultural eating habits) " which makes me think you haven't actually read very many posts on RI or ScienceBlogs in general because in general nutrition isn't a topic here much. We might have a comments seciton devolve to a conversation about food, but that's very different from talking about nutrition.</p> <p>Also, you might want to try checking out the non-biology ScienceBlogs. There's archaeology and astronomy and astrophysics, which is having a really big day with the discovery of the TRAPPIST-1 system.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353978&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Ec-1tu6-r-evBtGqyyOccvfdJPt47zHhpLxGyaJguXg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353978">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353979" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487868388"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I am wondering if Hattie might be making a bit of a joke and mimicking the form of the average Natural News support who drops by here. I mean, they got the joke about echo chambers, and that implies a sense of humour I rarely see by Mikey's pals.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353979&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="At1w0s2xbd0fL68RoCXteuC99m9fJvTHvLBU9X8TP2k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353979">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353988" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487869946"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The most surprising thing about this blog is that the comments do not appear to be being censored. Good to see. But then I guess this is a blog, not a "news organisation" website.<br /> We in the mainstream media in Noo Zillund censor reader comments all the time. It's actually pretty funny listening to the newsroom comments moderators whispering conspiratorially about reader comments they are not letting slip through the net. Sometimes they do so by mistake with something a little too incisive, and there is hell to pay. We're pretty precious with their narratives. They're investments, you see.<br /> I've also worked alongside intelligence officers in newsrooms (Operation Mockingbird, Noo Zillund style), so there's that.<br /> Critical thinking and research are key to forming an informed opinion on anything. In order to get to that place you need the mainstream narratives and the dissenting ones. The truth, so far as you can get to it, lies in the middle somewhere. Censorship is not your friend in getting to that place of truth.<br /> Finally folks have pointed out about that Google is a private corporation (and by extension has no duty to protect the US first amendment). That would only change probably if Google was shown to have partner or investment involvement with US state intelligence agencies where public funds have been expended and aided the business.<br /> Mmm, could be a story there...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353988&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_DFmWG1a3KZRaTCTLxPKjrUBWQfYdr3tshf4sUPZK2k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353988">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353979#comment-1353979" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354030" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487890832"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Whatinhell is Noo Zillund? Is that how the spelling of New Zealand is taught in St Petersburg schools?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354030&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yL4Ynyjp-RXLVWiQ6PDfe2ckHJtbdMqVrkrWsKe0EmI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354030">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353988#comment-1353988" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353980" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487868881"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@125</p> <p>The one word reply of </p> <blockquote><p>Sheeples</p></blockquote> <p>in lieu of an actual argument is too perfect.</p> <p>Who knew distinguishing reality and parody would become so difficult.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353980&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Fs5tMI6HwD4AY-W2q4lgSJqWGHhO36kFJ5-40PcF_nE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stewartt1982 (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353980">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353981" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487868941"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Katie, Teddy, Hattie are you all the same person? Your writing seems very similar. </p> <p>I don't think you understand what a sheeple really is. The regulars at this blog have a vary diverse opinion on most subjects. </p> <p>A sheeple is someone who follows another (a demigod to them?) without questions. Sheeple follow people like lush rumpy, the health stranger etc, etc without questions.</p> <p>Receiving your information from on high only is never a good way to find your way through life.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353981&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="nI29lNllvGx-fr5eHGpPuPPhNZe0zWZz4IqE2nZIR_Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rich Bly (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353981">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353982" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487869005"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Mike Adams may not be perfect and some of his writers may be a bit flaky, but there is some truth to what they write.</p></blockquote> <p>Can you provide examples of worthwhile content at NaturalNews? I am genuinely curious. Also I am very keen on avoiding work at the moment. </p> <blockquote><p>These people aren’t skeptics, the are pseudoskeptics guilty of logical fallacies.</p></blockquote> <p>I am guessing that you are getting your information on Scienceblogs, our host, and the skeptic movement writ large from sources like Mike Adams. These sources leave something to be desired.</p> <p>Incidentally, I am not the world's biggest fan of Monsanto, but that is because I'm an anti-capitalist in general. I don't think they're any better or worse than any other corporation; corporations are generally amoral and profit-driven, that's how they work.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353982&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="DasgFDV5GyCqBCtS4Mi-jSxes5gFxdjmjBqflXgvoXc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353982">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353983" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487869027"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>With regards to 'sneaky redirects'...</p> <p>Wasn't it Natural News that was redirecting any link that came in from here back to a generic landing page? I have memories of people in here commenting that if they clicked on links from RI they got redirected; but if they copied the link and put it in manually, then they got to the actual page that was being quoted.</p> <p>So the idea that he might be using deliberately deceptive redirects is not at all surprising, and as the Google page linked above notes, the reason Google clamps down on this is to make sure that the quoted page summary actually matches the page people will see when they click.</p> <p>(While I'm not entirely happy with just how black Google's black box is, I can fully understand why. Any set of rules they can enumerate <i>would</i> be gamed by people trying to cheat the system. Natural News with all its various sites linking to each other is already an attempt at making itself look better to the original Google 'pagerank' algorithm which prioritized sites that were cited with outside links.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353983&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="anGjh3Mx4CTF4crhl4G9EOHb_O0QhonJrpdkA_40Gqc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jenora Feuer (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353983">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353985" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487869274"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>He was and still is redirecting links from RationalWiki to a specific landing page<br /> I do not know about other sites.<br /> That is a deceptive practice; ie you click on a link expecting one thing and get another -- that is not a positive user experience.<br /> That is not necessarily a Google issue, but if they did that, then they are certainly capable of doing things that did break the terms and conditions that google have</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353985&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="i3H8Ow2C8abrNUFOJp0thnE8nYmYTpgGAwEHHvLx_k8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353985">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353983#comment-1353983" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jenora Feuer (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353984" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487869043"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What kind of wool do you think you get off a sheeple? Would it be electric blue, like in John Scalzi's The Android's Dream?<br /> Or would it be more like that creepy Victorian memorial hair jewelry?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353984&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="b2oZShmlnX4j7QOOZT61roPesO6yn2KRw-COKQQAR0Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353984">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353986" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487869534"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Wasn’t it Natural News that was redirecting any link that came in from here back to a generic landing page? I have memories of people in here commenting that if they clicked on links from RI they got redirected; but if they copied the link and put it in manually, then they got to the actual page that was being quoted</p></blockquote> <p>Indeed he was, bu Google doesn't care about this. What he was also doing was the same thing from Google searches. So instead of getting the page you clicked on, you would be redirected to another page on his website.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353986&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="x18SdUJSgkfFbtusAbziu3IjrhSJqX3tbvpAsV2Uglc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353986">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353987" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487869622"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Wasn’t it Natural News that was redirecting any link that came in from here back to a generic landing page?</p></blockquote> <p>Yep. You still get redirected to a page about "Mike Adams' 10 greatest achievements" or something.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353987&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="P3nCoQ3ZuzCBOd-3dPbX68HmFlMOxXSclxk1YhJY78g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353987">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353989" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487870280"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The most surprising thing about this blog is that the comments do not appear to be being censored. Good to see. But then I guess this is a blog, not a "news organisation" website.<br /> We in the mainstream media in Noo Zillund censor reader comments all the time. It's actually pretty funny listening to the newsroom comments moderators whispering conspiratorially about reader comments they are not letting slip through the net. Sometimes they do so by mistake with something a little too incisive, and there is hell to pay. We're pretty precious with our narratives. They're investments, you see.<br /> I've also worked alongside intelligence officers in newsrooms (Operation Mockingbird, Noo Zillund style), so there's that.<br /> Critical thinking and research are key to forming an informed opinion on anything. In order to get to that place you need the mainstream narratives and the dissenting ones. The truth, so far as you can get to it, lies in the middle somewhere. Censorship is not your friend in getting to that place of truth.<br /> Finally folks have pointed out about that Google is a private corporation (and by extension has no duty to protect the US first amendment). That would only change probably if Google was shown to have partner or investment involvement with US state intelligence agencies where public funds have been expended and aided the business.<br /> Mmm, could be a story there...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353989&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ElXfc4TTpeTDBCHVthpLPlXhiTQjDZfawSPZ5EUxNB4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353989">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353990" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487870776"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Reminds me of the webmaster of a french CT site, Wikistrike.<br /> A while back he received on his gmail adress one of these classic con mail impersonating Google to try to persuade him to give his password.<br /> He then went "OMG, Google is threatening me, this is proof we're important ! (Look, some of the words like "Targeted" have a capital, this is a hidden threat !)"<br /><a href="http://you.leparisien.fr/medias/2011/04/16/google-menace-sur-le-site-d-info-wikistrike-7840.html">http://you.leparisien.fr/medias/2011/04/16/google-menace-sur-le-site-d-…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353990&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KoAEjEEctQKfz4NQ6-aq0VqwxTFEdG2lvukdvOBD89g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">LouV (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353990">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353991" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487870919"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>The stench of the sheep manure is so strong here!</i></p> <p>As a farm boy, I feel compelled to defend the odour of sheep droppings. It's really quite innocuous. The smell of nature.<br /> You want really bad stench, visit a pig farm some time.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353991&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PyRHBup7fBV1AtGTNKYJorcuZdjHabFb9zIwMDhbvDs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353991">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353992" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487870932"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>The regulars at this blog have a vary diverse opinion on most subjects. </p></blockquote> <p>For instance, dill is a wonderful addition to all manner of dishes.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353992&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="t7jape3jyYQFRGuo_k1BP75yqCdMG23P308M1g8hpRQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353992">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353993" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487870966"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Guy @135: You said "The truth, so far as you can get to it, lies in the middle somewhere." That might be true of people and opinions and politics, but the earth is generally spherical, regardless of what the Flat Earth Society says, so the "truth" is not that the Earth is a frisbee. </p> <p>Objective facts being objective and all.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353993&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="IPgwLELgbFsh4NlnZIQ5-JGqArJw6wg3djsafWAiCCU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353993">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354004" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487874094"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Be careful what you write JustaTech, inattentive readers might think I'm a flat earther and discount my analysis with a broad brush (I'm not a flat earther lol :-))<br /> The middle I'm referring to is your consciousness (or mine, or anyone's) with critical thinking engaged. You weigh up the facts and narratives on an issue as you know them and reach a conclusion.<br /> This is an important skill to have and to exercise. If censorship goes ahead in the US and the rest of the world, your ability to reach a valid conclusion on anything will be negated.<br /> Take China, which has active internet censorship. The Chinese who visit Noo Zillund generally have no idea what Falun Gong is (it's basically yoga, if you don't know either) nor that that its practitioners in China are systematically imprisoned and reportedly executed with their organs sold for transplants. I don't know what the truth is in this matter myself, but I'm sure I'm a lot closer to getting to it than the average Chinese.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354004&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZK1jWA5IN3WBg5sFA1_5H_ojVcxihfRmPke6jqfOPzc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354004">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1353993#comment-1353993" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353994" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487871343"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The following illustrates that fake news has infiltrated the highest levels of scientifically respectable journalism. We need dissident voices. Now is not the time for any kind of censorship whatsoever:<br /> “It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.”<br /> — Dr. Marcia Angell, 2009 <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jan/15/drug-companies-doctorsa-story-of-corruption/">http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/jan/15/drug-companies-doc…</a></p> <p> “The case against science is straightforward: Much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses, and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness. As one participant put it, “poor methods get resultsâ€. The Academy of Medical Sciences, Medical Research Council, and Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council have now put their reputational weight behind an investigation into these questionable research practices. The apparent endemicity [i.e. pervasiveness within the scientific culture] of bad research behaviour is alarming. In their quest for telling a compelling story, scientists too often sculpt data to fit their preferred theory of the world. Or they retrofit hypotheses to fit their data. Journal editors deserve their fair share of criticism too. We aid and abet the worst behaviours. Our acquiescence to the impact factor fuels an unhealthy competition to win a place in a select few journals. Our love of “significance†pollutes the literature with many a statistical fairy-tale. We reject important confirmations. Journals are not the only miscreants. Universities are in a perpetual struggle for money and talent, endpoints that foster reductive metrics, such as high-impact publication. National assessment procedures, such as the Research Excellence Framework, incentivise bad practices. And individual scientists, including their most senior leaders, do little to alter a research culture that occasionally veers close to misconduct.”<br /> — Richard Horton, editor in chief of Lancet <a href="http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%2960696-1.pdf">http://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736%2815%296069…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353994&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="z-Ubc-xcAQnp-GxYHPoEPLwnnmBPQak7_k8piiy8Q80"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">rich winkel (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353994">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353995" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487871744"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Chris Preston@133:</p> <blockquote><p>Indeed he was, bu Google doesn’t care about this.</p></blockquote> <p>Never figured that they would. My point was more that if he was known to be actively doing this sort of thing for at least one site, it demonstrated both the capability and willingness to do it elsewhere.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353995&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="YDam0HPlhhhyXl5sZlyZpGo22wJlt2I-E_FEwK4XfHA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jenora Feuer (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353995">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353996" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487871891"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p># 136 JP</p> <p>Could you supply some suggestions? I have been experimenting with a lot of Chinese and Indian dishes and I am not all that sure about dill. </p> <p>On the other hand, I have heard that it is great in potato salad.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353996&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="djZIzO52xx2SFedWoWhVCxa2REc9Rd8dF1IDyVdN8q0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">jrkrideau (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353996">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353997" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487872299"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Could you supply some suggestions? I have been experimenting with a lot of Chinese and Indian dishes and I am not all that sure about dill. </p></blockquote> <p>It is a favorite herb in Russian, Polish, and Ukrainian kitchens and goes in just about anything/everything. Soups (especially cold soups like chlodnik, yum), salads (cucumber salad, potato salad, "vinegret," "olivye," etc.). And on and on. It is also very nice with pickles and as an ingredient in lox, but don't tell Narad. :-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353997&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="fIa3r1wLLWgijY_7ZwwIat1IbVXi7YJEqbClAk-iVxI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353997">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353998" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487872359"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>For instance, dill is a wonderful addition to all manner of dishes.</i></p> <p>Do not mentin cilantro, for that leads to immediate censo</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353998&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EuMt1WxFRQ1QftdDiRp-hGh5JGJc739LG-Dy52Mwfk8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353998">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1353999" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487872763"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>We in the mainstream media in Noo Zillund censor reader comments all the time.<br /> I’ve also worked alongside intelligence officers in newsrooms</i></p> <p>Objection! Some sockpuppet is trying to make Mikey fanbois <b>and</b> NZers seem stupider than they are.<br /> FALSE FLAG OPERATION.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1353999&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0zQ-8dQgygMCE4qKKZIlOJRf77pu4p04cNMeyGQrxE0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1353999">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354000" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487873034"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@143 - I used to live with a Polish woman ... dill really does go in/with anything.</p> <p>Last autumn my girlfriend came from Japan to visit me in the UK. I was surprised to learn that she had never seen/heard of dill (should not have been really, I've never seen it in Japan). She quite liked the flavour and aroma, but I fear it will be a mostly dill free life for us. We will live somehow ... I guess :(</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354000&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kaXc4RyzUiFT3GjC4LtZlsTX_QPz97wLkN_kkZDrATc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stewartt1982 (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354000">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354001" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487873229"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Who knew distinguishing reality and parody would become so difficult.</p></blockquote> <p>Poe's Law</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354001&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6ZgmohcRfSq9E1CqJnP-6MQ7_mkwuUgUtdAEoohsbOc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354001">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354002" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487873498"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I think it's wrong for Google to "de-list" anything. they should make it a user option to not see things Google finds objectionable.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354002&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="H45-JGbTK4fKaiwCZdzbTtdkAIPDGZY2D19uTWoWtc4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bob (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354002">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354005" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487874397"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Bob; they only delist those sites who do deliberate things to try and artificially manipulate the search results to get a better ranking for their site than they should have naturally. This is all that has happened to Mike Adams. Google does it to 100's of sites daily and has been doing it for years. They do it to protect the integrity of their search results from the spammers.</p> <p>Mike Adams can fix this very quickly if he wants to. However, claiming conspiracies etc fits into his narrative.There is no conspiracy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354005&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_o5sn9uqp_GyjiZH87IwL5jzBceGPvcba9nnWyes7ro"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354005">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354002#comment-1354002" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bob (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354003" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487873727"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm kind of old fashioned about this. I think nuts should be allowed to say whatever they want unencumbered. Daylight is the antiseptic. </p> <p>The real problem is the slippery slope. Which fascist wannabes and speeh police types are too happy to sleigh ride down.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354003&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8hasf1MdRpw1UjHz4OCO1YkR6KDEaC31qVAhVjpajfY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jj (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354003">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354006" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487874629"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>I think it’s wrong for Google to “de-list” anything</i></p> <p>And the servings are so small!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354006&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ousgiNpH2UXtQZR9dziBuq54VlJXx5zBbamEUoXApzc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354006">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354007" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487875817"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Just did a search for 'Natural News' and first up in the search was a "naturalDOTnewS", so Adams is finding a way around the delisting it seems.</p> <p>Top stories were all about the delisting and the 'activists' seem to be circling the wagons...</p> <p><a href="http://www.activistpost.com/2017/02/infowars-natural-news-attack.html">http://www.activistpost.com/2017/02/infowars-natural-news-attack.html</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354007&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kSjHsM77tt-mrsxmurGekaz-IU5jSyuyY5F63ICbVL4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Graham (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354007">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354008" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487876181"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@127<br /><i>Who knew distinguishing reality and parody would become so difficult.</i></p> <p>Nathan Poe<br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354008&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Df7_8a_xoPOOEbNSahGJzyTOUlw2IDYgpEOYSQZUuMc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lancelot Link (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354008">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354009" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487876989"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Why? because pickles are phallic and he’ll get turned on?</p></blockquote> <p>I smell a sock.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354009&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="MIgoP53d760IL68-jtdLmqy8JzxfF7DZ4h-m7WP3Ec8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354009">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354010" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487878930"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hattie seems to bear the stink of troll Fucklesworth = Travis J. Schwochert</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354010&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lvy_RGM4Kkzhcvs2Tkm5b4b43qI8eSNmD9-ii3gELuI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354010">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354011" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487879374"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yep. I sort of had my suspicion with the first comment, but for some reason I let it slide. I should listen to that little warning bell that goes off in my head when I see a comment like that. It's also virtually assured that at least one of our other newbies is also a Travis sock. Stay frosty.</p> <p>We'll also soon see if my suspicions about a couple of other newbies are correct. :-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354011&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="drs-oghxy-qnghnjEF28l_XFmyKtJmK6CKvv6Mk0ork"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354011">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354010#comment-1354010" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354012" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487879422"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>All those comments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354012&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pJ59q1wyOfD42T4stjmFdd4EtreUWDvZoDF-SlrtAio"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354012">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354013" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487879497"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Looks like Mikey’s still delisted as of this writing. Google still returns his FB page as the top hit when searching for naturalnews.com.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354013&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="of3rt3ir8gFR9ICYboUttOuIJcX8rnC9AtE7XqrpcLA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous Coward (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354013">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354014" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487880060"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I haven't been commenting here much lately, and not read a ton of comments, so I have not seen this Travis sock. I hope, in the very least, they were not using my gravatar, and just happened to use the same name.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354014&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="w0t_H5DMt9szSyDn1SsenpSQAc92ySOgU9w5FIFv2kY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354014">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354015" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487880466"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The troll's socks go by many names, starting with Fendelsworth, but his real name is Travis Schwochert.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354015&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KGqo9xA_WFb7cvfpUysqgNKnyaKFzC3LkOmvWALb3MM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354015">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354014#comment-1354014" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354016" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487880519"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p> She quite liked the flavour and aroma, but I fear it will be a mostly dill free life for us. We will live somehow … I guess ?</p></blockquote> <p>Tonight we're having <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanesco_broccoli">roasted Fibonacci sequence</a> and leftover meatloaf. The only dill is in the homemade buttermilk ranch for the salad, but if Narad were here, he could have jarred bleu cheese dressing or raspberry vinaigrette instead.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354016&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vlAeJ96Qz7QxGkbL733pa1PbadGDoYrAAAeDQH6isfo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354016">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354032" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487891775"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I ordered seeds for that plant. Alas, none sprouted, but that *was* around the time postal mail was being irradiated after the anthrax scare.*</p> <p>*We had also shipped by mail some nice comforters, which arrived slightly burned and brittle from the beta radiation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354032&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4bsxZDUS9iLGyRSksI6eFYK0VI1VN8vOsQN2lDCEgs0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354032">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354016#comment-1354016" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354017" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487880873"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i> if Narad were here, he could have jarred bleu cheese dressing or raspberry vinaigrette instead.</i></p> <p>Je vinaigrette rien.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354017&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xxvJ7Y5NKD4SEvxImltRlLruGRzb61aF8Zk-5ZR496c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354017">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354018" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487881023"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ahh, thanks Orac. Okay, I have seen Fendelsworth mentioned quite a bit but did not know his actual name so I did not make the connection here.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354018&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="e2AUqaUV73w9jdUtVrvJCJYGCKNgq_TKaRdHf_xsSCg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354018">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354019" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487881196"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>SUPPORT NATURAL NEWS and Mike Adams NOT CHINA INTRANET POLICIES that are seeping in the USA</p></blockquote> <p>I'm reminded of when the AoA commentariat was freaking out about "Net neutrality," because, see, it was <b><i>the government</i></b>, and Big pHARMa obviously is the FCC's puppet master. Otherwise, they would have banned DTC advertising in tthe name of Freedom.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354019&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6mwJBKEbaHtRLolJcDA6hNJhMAgwQe1VjqSa0YPZqU0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354019">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354020" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487881495"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I'm too tired to be jarring salad dressing. Christ, I'm lucky if there's a full serving left if I fail to cook two gallons' worth.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354020&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iolUQ91YwbTzMTDp8gQ16mTwyVJXwVp3wkJF7l-E8tM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354020">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354021" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487881861"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>The troll’s socks go by many names, starting with Fendelsworth</p></blockquote> <p>Did "Lord Windermere" actually come second? (He used the 'y' spelling elsewhere, with an accompanying Gravatar, which had been changed to a poodle last I checked.)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354021&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lGM6GGSeH_hfQNs2fHXlt1qGztYcQxI-8tG9b82_zrQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354021">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354022" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487885198"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I doubt that these true believers are capable of coming up with independent ideas.</p></blockquote> <p>I can only imagine the hysterical shrieking if this recent lot figured out that whole DNS thing. Oh, and is it "censorship" that Typepad* blocks Tor exit nodes, among other addresses, from so much as <b>reading</b> sites?</p> <p>* E.g., AoA.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354022&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Fb76WfItRF6lMK_0CnPLq8SDIURVn-kphmvRQcCe4FM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354022">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354023" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487888011"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Update: Mikey has now launched a petition to the White House whining about teh Googlez:</p> <blockquote><p>With this petition, we hope to alert President Trump to the extremely disturbing truth that Google is deliberately and maliciously censoring pro-Trump independent journalism websites in order to silence them.</p></blockquote> <p>More: </p> <blockquote><p>NaturalNews.com serves millions of readers every month with valuable, sourced and honest content from a truly independent publisher that isn’t controlled by corrupt corporations or government. In fact, independent publishers like Natural News represent the only remaining “free press” in America. (The corporate-run media is nothing but public relations for statism.)</p></blockquote> <p>Again, Mikey doesn't seem to get that Trump <i>is</i> the government now. And the government is, y'know... the state.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354023&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RZThu7BeAk-8Dxl5d8C5dVkAOu_1uEKDV1E8DhTL4Ds"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354023">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354024" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487888286"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>He is milking it for all its worth. This all just plays into his narrative.</p> <p>This: 'that Google is deliberately and maliciously censoring pro-Trump independent journalism websites in order to silence them."</p> <p>Should have said: "that Google is deliberately removing sites that are breaking their webmaster guidelines to try and manipulate their search rankings"</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354024&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NyjD2lGLi3LoB4ovsRJbL_b2j4hAAnF1Ep1GvsP-K0I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354024">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354023#comment-1354023" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354025" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487888416"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What can Trump do?</p> <p>Maybe call the Federal Trade Commission, who will respond with a "not this shit again" ... they might ring Google to find out what is going on. Google will explain it and its all over.</p> <p>I have been around search engines with my work for yrs; we seen these issues many times in the last 10 yrs, hence the FTC's "not this shit again"</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354025&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1UDxGS--6ScqHgw9wiTN_uI_XTRRWYq3rVv-wT01fNs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354025">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354023#comment-1354023" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354026" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487889237"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"...the wretchedest of wretched hives of scum and quackery"...as written in the fake news story above, would be better in describing the last 8 years of those in the White House, and the MSM, then and now. This story above, is full of lies Such an obvious leftist Communist hit piece. I guess no matter how low they go, they will always find a way to go much lower. Just wish they'd go to N.Korea where they would be much more comfortable and feel right at home, and quit trying to take America down with them.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354026&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hXy7kY1Jbz4rT2jqqbImjumP-a4VafJFbd6EJUQ7b60"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bernell Sannes (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354026">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354038" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487899469"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Let's see now.<br /> Denial of reality? Check.<br /> Claiming that for profit news organizations are somehow communist? Check.<br /> Calling those who one disagrees with politically communist? Check.<br /> Wanting anyone one disagrees with to leave their homes and move to a dictatorship? Check.</p> <p>Sounds more like you'd fit in in North Korea than anyone who disagrees with you would.<br /> And worse, this veteran, who completely disagrees with every thing that you just wrote isn't leaving the nation he spent nearly three decades of his life in military defense of.</p> <p>So, do feel free to kiss my arse in Macy's window during the New Year's Day parade.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354038&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="--_Sf7iFpHu9jmg8HJZw7bAI9OzAaU4CyUuP5KAReiI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354038">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354026#comment-1354026" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bernell Sannes (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354027" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487889593"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"I wonder what Mikey will have to say when that purge and coup attempt never happen."<br /> I don't. It will run something like this: "Because I and my readers/supporters/flying monkeys bravely stood up against Google's fascistic censorship, we have warded off the purge I warned against." Or something along that line.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354027&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="97IJxvXTd59-lhE_tXk68LvbjspsCbrK7BSLPzN3pkI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354027">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354028" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487890125"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>MJD says MJD says: "In my opinion, if a person accepts at least one vaccine, or allows their child to receive at least one vaccine, they can not be labeled “anti-vaccine” or an “antivaxxer”"<br /> It is not generally well known but is nonetheless true that Hermann Göring saved his favorite Jew from extermination. I propose therefore that he was not an anti-Semite.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354028&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PuN63NCdVNnQnxnwe7vlli9a1BW2sd0tRGg1vu62fl4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354028">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354029" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487890164"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>MJD says MJD says: "In my opinion, if a person accepts at least one vaccine, or allows their child to receive at least one vaccine, they can not be labeled “anti-vaccine” or an “antivaxxer”"<br /> It is not generally well known but is nonetheless true that Hermann Göring saved his favorite Jew from extermination. I propose therefore that he can not be labeled an anti-Semite.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354029&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kjRAoNERzKpD722pC2yrQ_zETw-4lr3p-N0xrD6FqNI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354029">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354031" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487891543"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Let's review that claim, 300k deaths per year from medical errors.<br /> There are 320 million people in the country, where are the emptied out towns, where everyone died of malpractice?<br /> Where are all of the new cemeteries, as the old ones overflowed?</p> <p>9 out of 10 statistical claims are nonsense, including this one.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354031&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hdOs1CkQ1lwKYvkxixmCjmH6TMcBLW7v7NCnD8IHgbo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354031">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354033" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487894199"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>What can Trump do?</p></blockquote> <p>He seems to be pretty keen on Executive Orders, whether he has the power or not.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354033&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1Qab5RBeAIIsKuhfXVPRofXz5zVYlw1g_hfWX_orPk4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354033">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354034" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487894314"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Did “Lord Windermere” actually come second? (He used the ‘y’ spelling elsewhere, with an accompanying Gravatar, which had been changed to a poodle last I checked.)</p></blockquote> <p>Phoebe the poodle?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354034&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-hS8VIj91uPJMbU03KnpzJSaMo82O_iGUynjQrkZkG0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354034">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354035" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487897543"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's sad that google has become so political. </p> <p>You guys are all cheering the delisting of Natural News, but when Google decides other speech should be silenced that hits closer to home you won't be so excited.</p> <p>censorship is never to be applauded.</p> <p>But then again, when the Nazi's publicly burned books, there were alot of people cheering them on. So we see history repeat itself.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354035&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="TomnlLXzjy7KSlsz_k1pq5MC8vGYE7LdBnzCCtQYCns"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">richard lefew (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354035">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354107" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487954795"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>When did a search engine company become a national government? When was the site taken offline? When were the site's servers confiscated?</p> <p>The answer to all of those questions is one word: Never.<br /> A private company has terms of service, if those terms are violated, as outlined in this blog, that company can and will remove the offending site from their registry to protect their own reputation.</p> <p>Google is not a government. The site is still online and trivially found in less reputable search engines.<br /> Come yell about censorship when Trump orders a site offline and it is taken offline. Until then, it isn't censorship, it's protecting a company's reputation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354107&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VjnNfGSc-DMd2PbhwXDPlNx1Du9v_lPeFBbiNlgp_SY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354107">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354035#comment-1354035" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">richard lefew (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354036" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487898159"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Phoebe the poodle?</p></blockquote> <p>The poor thing must have a <a href="https://web.archive.org/save/_embed/http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/07be5209b3491f86a3b369a941a670d2">lot of time something on his hands</a>.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354036&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NGDcsudYF1ZNaucshfY_h3mmJ2_hEKLkA3j0Nn4HpFY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354036">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354037" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487899398"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Regardless, it's still censorship.</p> <p>The whole purpose of free speech is so you can identify the crazy people. And never be so arrogant as to think that the crazy person is 100% for certain crazy.</p> <p>Ignaz Semmelweis was a lunatic doctor who advocated washings hands before handling patients because he believed that tiny organisms caused illness. He was put into a mental asylum where he was beaten to death.</p> <p>I'm not saying this is an equivalent case, but anybody should be allowed to say anything. Censorship is always a bad thing, without exception - even when what is being censored is wrong. Censoring an incorrect opinion gives credence to it. Has Google explained why they have done this? The people who follow the site assume it's because of big pharma, the people who don't assume it's because he's a quack.</p> <p>Neither of you know why though.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354037&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0Y5mVK7Cxvq34Ayn3C9JpOXSyzCz6PsdOcjAcUGxpfM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Richard Wicks (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354037">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354039" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487900183"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>He seems to be pretty keen on Executive Orders, whether he has the power or not.</i></p> <p>Not much different than Obama then, who has bombed 7 nations over the course of 8 years, entirely with executive orders. He''s a war criminal and mass murdered, no different that Bush was.</p> <p>When John Kerry was at the UN swearing there was proof Assad gassed his own people, I kept flashing back to that traitor and liar Colin Powell claiming there was a weapons of mass destruction program.</p> <p>When Dennis Kucinich and Tulsi Gabbard actually went on a fact finding excursion to find out, I flashed back to Scott Ritter.</p> <p>The US government has been run by war criminals for 16 years. I'm not saying anything has changed, I'm saying it's possible that it has. It wouldn't have with Clinton who knew Qatar and Saudia Arabia was funding ISIS, and so was Obama, if you are to believe Kucinich and Gabbard, who didn't find any "moderate" rebels.</p> <p>It's all in the wikileaks, if you were actually curious to find out.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354039&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BhXHpuBIpifKicjLbRBOoeuO8qFYHxjnIm6J5u0GBbY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Richard Wicks (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354039">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354040" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487901600"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>So Mikey has a new "broadcast" up. Google is now not just Communist China, it's also North Korea. Oh, and Sauron. (No, I am not making this up.</p> <p>It would be sheer entertainment if it weren't for the part where he calls vaccine advocates child molesters. (Literally.) Gee, I wonder who he means?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354040&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="k3eefQ6iQ2j9HPiII0dXx7MzAX-tbKjyVwqrVCJSEZU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354040">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354044" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487910162"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Let's be frank. Only idiots allow their children to be injected with mercury, squalene, formaldehyde etc. And allow their hereditary immunity to be tweaked with respect generally harmless childhood illnesses.<br /> It's basically a gene pool cleanup. Karma's on the cleaners, though.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354044&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vrSPyjn-PDZ4xYT1JFFGbFl3fCkuI6J9I2SAzH0V6OU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354044">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354040#comment-1354040" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354078" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487943771"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>so I guess all those that have a general anesthetic for surgery or a local anesthetic for dental work are idiots too...<br /> I assume you realize what is in those injections?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354078&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JsPJtD6Y_5kN2tkuYyZCK0QZgz2HuoOC7hBjZ9apy0s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354078">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354044#comment-1354044" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354041" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487901692"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh, also, "You are an infoslave on Google's plantation."</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354041&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BwSKfILgvtto7GYHMgbuvQZsTdGEJ9HvXsZLxhMit-c"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354041">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354042" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487903033"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The name of this site is 'science' blogs; you know, about science and the lack thereof. I am just wondering, how scientific is this roasting, skewing, and burning of Mike Adams and his website naturalnews.com? As an independent research scholar and a student of medical history, I am appalled at how 'unscientific' your approach is when describing naturalnews.com and the sites' content. Mike Adams may indeed be right about there being a targeted attack against him and his site! Your blog just proves his point!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354042&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wmA4ynO2WgsooovQsL4AT8mFGqlF7LYCkpi2fqKYxn0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stephen clarke (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354042">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354043" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487909111"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>He’d be very happy if all of you twinkies would just shut up and get on with your lives. </i><br /> Could someone interpret Katie's insults for me? -- for I am not wise in the ways of your American idiom. Are Orac and his usual commentariat supposed to be baked junk-food products?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354043&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yTj4LndIKJc5FDBeEvUdYwIDBAXcVjNCvtrm0oai8us"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354043">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354045" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487912107"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Let’s be frank.</i><br /> Let's be Travis.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354045&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1GNB7Xfnt27JGvZ6L6b_PfuMkig7_G0U-ZnQyhDw9PQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 23 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354045">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354046" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487912554"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Who's Travis?<br /> Anyway, construct an argument. In the right place. Like in a subthread lol.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354046&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wKmLVJKOK7Jd1Z3BEI4KzTVJP8hr5qtGIfhQvvIapPg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354046">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354045#comment-1354045" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354047" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487916050"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Your pitiful"faux "blog should be an embarassment to you. You people are WORSE THAN THE FUCKING COWARDS who dlisted this guy. These cuckoldsuse censorship because they know theiR views don't stand up to reason. GOOGLE, PAYPAL,REDIT, FACEBOOK,TWITTER by their cencorship of opposing opinions are admitting the inherent irrational weakness of their views. YOU'RE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING COWARDS. There are many who agree with me. And your MONOPOPLY WILL SOON COME TO AN END. FUCK YOU, YOU SISSY-BOY MILQUETOASTS. YOU SHOULD HANG YOUR HEADS IN DISGRACE. HAVE FUN IN HELL.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354047&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="u-LfvCxY_JxyPgXQufw5OnPb3IMXjXaCRjwLYYEKhDI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">harold schwantz, jr. (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354047">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354109" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487955129"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>DiD wRiTiNg In RaNdOm UpPeR aNd LoWeR cAsE pRoVe YoU pOiNt In AnY wAy?</p> <p>Hint, no. Nor did your profanity or calling people cuckold prove anything other than your profound lack of intellect.<br /> Delisting a site that presents pages other than what was listed in the search is nothing more than reputation protection. Google also delists known malware sites.<br /> Google is not a government, the website still exists and is cranking out crank drivel even as we speak.</p> <p>So, do kindly go pound sand up the orifice of your own choice.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354109&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="O7itrECZK400yqxhYQxvtFqHhW6Ee46x1T1AvSxSWYo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354109">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354047#comment-1354047" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">harold schwantz, jr. (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354048" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487922401"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>" I am just wondering, how scientific is this roasting, skewing, and burning of Mike Adams and his website naturalnews.com?"</p> <p>Things fall apart<br /> It's scientific</p> <p>- Talking Heads</p> <p>"As an independent research scholar"</p> <p>In other words, a proud holder of a Google University diploma?</p> <p>It's always fun when alties invoke Semmelweis to show that Doctors Were Wrong Before, never noticing the strong similarities between alt med advocates and the physicians who clung to old practices and rejected Semmelweis (speaking of whom, it appears controversial whether the cause of his death was really a beating by sanitarium guards, as is reported by certain sources (some of whom report the story as "possibly" or "probably" occurring). On the other hand, according to britannica.com:</p> <p>"In 1865 he suffered a breakdown and was taken to a mental hospital, where he died. Ironically, his illness and death were caused by the infection of a wound on his right hand, apparently the result of an operation he had performed before being taken ill. He died of the same disease against which he had struggled all his professional life."</p> <p>Back to Mike Adams' trauma - I propose that whenever we refer to NN from now on, it should be "the delisted Natural News" (as a tribute to those folks who have gleefully (and dishonestly) referred to Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch as "delicensed").</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354048&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="f7hP2b1KPxPZEqdhZoH5LCGl9K07l52XspyNV33JVjs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354048">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354049" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487923096"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>How dare you folks criticize the genius epidemiologist who cracked the Zika mystery, not just once, but several times, with various braindead theories, all involving conspiracies.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354049&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0KgSx6gTeCIBdB0KyuoyA_8miuIHSzHEyWNFjujyYYQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">rork (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354049">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354050" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487923527"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Richard Wicks @181</p> <blockquote><p> Has Google explained why they have done this? The people who follow the site assume it’s because of big pharma, the people who don’t assume it’s because he’s a quack.<br /> Neither of you know why though.</p></blockquote> <p>This has been explained, and as supposed by Orac, it has nothing to do with the site's content : <a href="http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-269998">http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-26…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354050&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7RuwSjt79gG8Fg-ISiMGdcxyMrKk526BG_wKl2um1Qw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">LouV (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354050">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354077" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487943189"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>and to make it worse. A Google staff member tried to post in that thread on NN about the real reasons it was removed and the post was not approved.<br /> We can only assume t was not approved as it does not play into the narrative that Mike Adams want to spin for his gullible followers.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354077&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="qg026gzMBvQHN8oVTquvPYkx6tiMWvnH6WP0yp9HVvw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354077">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354050#comment-1354050" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">LouV (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354051" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487924671"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ rich winkel #139</p> <blockquote><p>The following illustrates that fake news has infiltrated the highest levels of scientifically respectable journalism. We need dissident voices.</p></blockquote> <p> (followed by well-known quotes by Angell and Horton)<br /> Setting aside the fact that it was not censorship, Angell and Horton didn't have sites like NN in mind as viable answers to their criticism of peer-reviewed journals.<br /> These websites piggyback on real problems of science journals and pretend they are avoiding these problems, when in reality they are acting even worse.<br /> They certainly never talk about real efforts to improve medical science publishing (Cochrane works, All Trials, journals like the french Prescrire, etc.) and let their readers imagine they are the only solution that exists.<br /> They let them think that their cartoonish way of writing and investigating is the way real pharmaceutical scandals are meant to be discovered and denounced. Such a diversion of militant energy that could be used to improve the medical system / press is really depressing to watch.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354051&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="czrhGzpolpr_US2rEGfEPpPdI7lTOcucFk_BmWZTnZo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">LouV (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354051">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354052" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487926866"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's all fun and shadenfreude until it's your website that gets de-listed. Remember that science nerds...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354052&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7wxySqFSvyIRkGArxkvLSIPF_LH6TzLP1VUjYzUqjjk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Teresa (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354052">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354075" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487943023"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You obviously have no clue as to why NN was delisted. Mike Adams knows and he is lying about it. You are falling for it.<br /> A Google staff member even tried to post in that thread on NN as to why and what they have to do to get it relisted (the post was not approved).<br /> All this plays into the narrative that Mike Adams is spinning and you falling for it.<br /> The facts do not suit that narrative.<br /> Mike Adams could get NN back in Google tomorrow if he wants to. All he has to do is stop the sneaky mobile redirects that he put on the site. That is all. There is no censorship and no conspiracy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354075&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NOQ2EMhtAR5TVhbP9LQHRwQRbN7NfPHLl85dQuqAMMc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354075">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354052#comment-1354052" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Teresa (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354053" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487927050"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I find it ironic that these "NN" followers who show up over here manage to post screeds that, while blasting us for being "unscientific," highlight their own profound ignorance, bias and hate.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354053&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xJZ9vbLp1xQyBa8y_Y0N7C4E7sgoU9uuzWetUD01gUE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354053">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354054" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487927149"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Why do you think I approve their comments? The lulz are epic.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354054&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="IYEkCDY7y0TLQtgDApoamNvMnuX9tkKeR5vB-aRVuPY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354054">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354053#comment-1354053" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354055" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487927621"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The Nazis were very adept at choosing what is real and not real. So were the Stazi. So were the KGB. And guess what, they burned books in order to prevent people from having alternative views. You guys are sick, and disgusting.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354055&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="J4R_OaF6TmmsF2zb3cs3aPF2GKYKbYKuCOmHLC0ZNWQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Tielle Tea (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354055">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354056" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487927960"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Orac - agreed.</p> <p>I wonder if they ever look at their comments &amp; think - "hey, maybe this makes me sound like a lunatic, perhaps I shouldn't post it?"</p> <p>I'm guessing not.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354056&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hGezG-nK0Z6fRn3dQtZfRpMJTkOd3vuKkEkfwxNWKtk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354056">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354057" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487928058"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>We "science nerds" tend not to try to game the system &amp; use improper means to generate site traffic and ad revenue.</p> <p>Before you comment, perhaps you should find out exactly why NN got itself into trouble.....because it wasn't because it was posting "fake news."</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354057&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Zt7YEGzaKLiR8Np4sEyDhxdhssWdz2y6EuJSUtSE3eI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354057">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354058" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487928327"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>What the hell is 'cuckholdsuse'?</p> <p>Where's a good old civilisation destroying apocalypse when you need one eh?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354058&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-2IXIudAHqsIbrMxxyU-YOpNa2acSYtrcblyP4FoD-E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NumberWang (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354058">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354059" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487931114"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The Internet has become 'Critical Infrastructure' in the US, can that even be debatable?<br /> Now with the Globalist (Facist) Giants controling what we are 'allowed' to see, it is time they had to answer to 'We The People'.<br /> SIGH THE PETITION! SHARE IT WITH ALL YOUR CONTACTS! </p> <p><a href="https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-ban-googles-blatant-suppression-free-speech">https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/petition-ban-googles-blatant-…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354059&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CgMMzJjJQLZL8pGtBqzC2Wj7WHN3b3bdkSrk77_TXA8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Charles Smith (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354059">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354060" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487931932"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@201 - Re: cuckholdsuse</p> <p>At first I thought harold was just describing a new SUSE derived version of linux, but in his haste forgot to capitalise. cuckholdSUSE™</p> <p>Then I realised that it was a missing space and he meant to type "...cuckholds use...".</p> <p>But finally I realised it was a subtle code for everyone to kindly ignore anything that might follow, because anyone who feels the need to start off an argument with denigrating those they disagree with as cuckholds is basically saying "look at me I have nothing".</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354060&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tkcZ8wctXJ6uFN52lVnGBFw6mYmY9rT7AtW1HvqReTA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stewartt1982 (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354060">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354061" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487934492"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hey dumbass Orac,<br /> Answer these questions:<br /> 1. Is ANY AMOUNT of mercury in the body classified as a poison?<br /> 2. What purpose does mercury serve in vaccines in regard to human health? That is, why is it needed in vaccines?<br /> You're an idiot for criticizing Adams. It is YOU who are clueless.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354061&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="s4_CN4thBdgbLcE81iX-nz5hWX8U4QJpn1wxtmulcvw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">steve (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354061">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354072" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487942048"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Steve</p> <p>perhaps you could explain why Mike Adams is lying as to why his site has been removed from Google?<br /> A Google staff member tried to post in that thread on Natural News as to why the site was removed and what needs to be done to get it relisted. As you are such a NN fan boy, perhaps you could explain why the post was not approved?<br /> Could it be that the truth does not fit into his narrative that you were so gullible to fall for?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354072&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="89lS8OwtKr7DsmD6h6HN59hPTYoRufDM834TQGfpoDI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Paynew (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354072">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354061#comment-1354061" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">steve (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354062" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487935050"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Re #203. Ah. Just a 'cuck' up then....hurr hurr hurr.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354062&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="um6MxJFvpSF8rOFU0vLriSp7zMqOr-u0GpdWyMO1y6s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NumberWang (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354062">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354063" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487935895"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Do I smell a Travis sock above?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354063&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="hVCzfqBxz_KGdukkqsiXIKB6m4wfczMa17zpWi3LnFc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354063">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354064" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487936919"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Hey, idiot Steve - feel free to point out exactly which vaccines on the US pediatric schedule are only available with Thimerosal.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354064&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9DEz8EHrqjwHNmVtbH4rLfSh-KPMsXcgK4eT7tGdTaQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354064">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354065" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487939705"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>1. Is ANY AMOUNT of mercury in the body classified as a poison?<br /> 2. What purpose does mercury serve in vaccines in regard to human health? That is, why is it needed in vaccines?</p></blockquote> <p>If you don't already know the answers to these questions then it's even more hilarious you're calling Orac a dumbass.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354065&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZpQuDrA1Jy_5g8bVqEcCnO8KTAQqfFdo8maSE4Y8VRk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Science Mom (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354065">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354066" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487940798"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It may be true that Natural news might not appeal to all, and spreads some poorly researched information. However, before you cheer about its demise from Google searches and archives (it appears that they're up today though), it might behoove you to consider this: Maybe one day it might be you or your site that becomes persona non grata because someone doesn't like what you have to say. Freedom of speech needs to apply to all, no matter how distasteful it might be. </p> <p>Pulling a line from an unrelated article, but still goes to teh point:</p> <p>"The people in charge of these institutions understand that if suppression of speech ever becomes the default option in America, the people being suppressed will be on the left, not the right. They also know that the only way to defeat bad ideas is to advance good ideas—and that the time to get started on that urgent task is now." ( <a href="http://reason.com/archives/2017/02/16/free-speech-even-for-corey-lewandowski">http://reason.com/archives/2017/02/16/free-speech-even-for-corey-lewand…</a> )</p> <p>Replace "Left" and "Right" with whatever person or entity you wish, it's all the same.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354066&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VwP3qIuk-tKJFP7rD2X4lsE2BN4NOycp-uiHXPFcM1o"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chmeee (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354066">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354082" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487944258"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is not a freedom of speech issue.<br /> Natural News has 'sneaky mobile redirects'. That is why google removed them. Google to that to every site that does it as it impacts on their search results.<br /> Mike Adams knows that.<br /> All he has to do is fix that technical problem and his site will be relisted.<br /> Simple and as easy as that. There is no conspiracy etc etc</p> <p>Now, as if he chooses to fix it is another story. That would mean he has to admit he just lied to all his fans.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354082&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="h44hTXwdDOAsRmocGhhyHlo-MPgUoqIRIha-lJt-b5k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">craig payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354082">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354066#comment-1354066" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chmeee (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354067" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487941001"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Here is an interesting development. A Google staff member tried to post the facts on that thread at Natural News as to why the site was removed and what was needed o get the site relisted.<br /> Hos post was either not approved or has not yet been approved.<br /> See what the Googler (John Mu) tried o post here:<br /><a href="https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=footer#!msg/webmasters/3BNKoRXA49g/VonPZ3L7DAAJ">https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=foo…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354067&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-C5rOA2bIXdYcIc4KCZ5VjlRG1JKzyjwBe7QU0RIaqQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354067">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354068" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487941491"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Mike also engaged in gaming a contest on twitter by bending the rules ( he had his followers create accounts when only existing accounts mattered) Rational wiki/ natural news</p> <p>BUT he is an computer expert ( see Health Ranger .com bio)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354068&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zgDzrtioia9jZronWDgJygT0jyzmPlxJqDNnQTkVPhA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354068">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354069" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487941675"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>To respond to the question of the hour:</p> <p>No, I do like dill </p> <p>I don't eat pickles or mayonaised salads with it either.</p> <p>I guess Narad and I aren't related.</p> <p>Wasn't Dil the name of the trans p in the Crying Game?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354069&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="T59wDbqwa-6YTpeSBsWSpKwN8i9le_7Z6h4JW2Jbcr0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354069">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354070" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487941708"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>correction I don't like dill.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354070&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aahlhUJ6Y-avxzAjWaGZSBTpfoUw13kmmZu-jD0j9q8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354070">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354071" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487941970"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>9 out of 10 statistical claims are nonsense, including this one.</p></blockquote> <p>And, of course, 43% of statistics are made up on the spot.</p> <p>More seriously: 300k people out of 320 million is a little less than one in a thousand. A back-of-the-envelope calculation based on life expectancy gives a total annual death rate of about 13 per thousand. So not impossible; the former is about 7% of the latter. But I'd like to see what they define as a death due to medical error. I suspect there is more than a little <i>post hoc ergo propter hoc</i> in that number.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354071&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NUYBBEAcCisE3btkJwq2Rr75t01MNCXSNNR2eoZmWRQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354071">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354073" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487942268"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ha!<br /> Mike tweets that g--gle is the # 1 Bully or suchlike<br /> and has #SaveNaturalNews</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354073&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="JM54B_PHjULjCIbEm-3_TBcFEkHPvkCEoro6twmHjx8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354073">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354074" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487942723"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I don’t eat pickles or mayonaised salads with it either.</p></blockquote> <p>Most of the Russian and Polish salads that use dill use sour cream rather than mayonnaise. You can substitute yogurt if you're feeling healthy. But if you don't like dill anyway... you probably wouldn't last long in Russia or Poland. :-)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354074&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KcKoCQQr8XKx_jDVFWaBMxDW1nrdA-DjOXFyHZvJ-PU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354074">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354076" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487943175"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ JP:</p> <p>Actually I've had spectacular Russian food but I think that it was French - influenced.<br /> But I like the pelmeni and cakes.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354076&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bSV13N5Ax9dw8t2qwwEI27MEJSHGgb2aByoVs47tmas"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354076">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354079" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487943792"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>We in the mainstream media in Noo Zillund censor reader comments all the time. It’s actually pretty funny listening to the newsroom comments moderators whispering conspiratorially about reader comments they are not letting slip through the net. Sometimes they do so by mistake with something a little too incisive, and there is hell to pay. We’re pretty precious with their narratives. They’re investments, you see.<br /> I’ve also worked alongside intelligence officers in newsrooms (Operation Mockingbird, Noo Zillund style), so there’s that.</i></p> <p>Details! Name names! Which NZ newsrooms were these? Which mainstream media? Who were the intelligence officers? They might be my erstwhile colleagues.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354079&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="e7VhA4H_ajj0pczz0LEOBsNeJy1p61wmIat8rBcNAV4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354079">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354080" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487943869"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>First, I'll be surprised if this comment gets posted.</p> <p>I've never heard of Mike Adams or Natural News. Google has every right to ban whoever they want - for the same reason that a baker in Oregon has the right to refuse service to homosexuals.</p> <p>It's called the right of association.</p> <p>However, I find it ironic that most people who support this Google ban and make fun of Mike Adams, are the very same people who would disparage the baker and who would definitely be extremely upset if it were their website that was blacklisted.</p> <p>The ignorance and hypocrisy of the far left (aka communists) never ceases to amaze me.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354080&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="mwqdYNP7sLGEn98Ogz--qg_FCNSKw6NpziHNThya0rE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">David (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354080">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354081" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487944125"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Comrade JP @103</p> <p>I'm confused - I thought we supposed to be corporate shills not communists.</p> <p>MInd you if those who shout about freedom and threats to freedom from the impending Obama coup can support a right wing authoritarian backed by theocrats, perhaps we can manage to be both.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354081&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EhIkhny_7e9erYa3lyBglFSz1J91TUXo5Co70mskdCY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Militant Agnostic (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354081">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354083" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487944733"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>MInd you if those who shout about freedom and threats to freedom from the impending Obama coup can support a right wing authoritarian backed by theocrats, perhaps we can manage to be both.</p></blockquote> <p>Well, if Obama can be a communist <i>and</i> a fascist and a Muslim <i>and</i> a godless atheist, anything is possible.</p> <p>I'm not really a communist, just by the by, although I like to call myself one (admit to being one?) when accused of being one. I'm just a radical far left socialist. But tomayto, tomahto.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354083&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="1c8-Pd8X4UeBHZKqD0LiIAk-R40yv1PVRvjm0wT5GuA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354083">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354084" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487945239"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I see Google staffers are even reaching out to Mike Adams and Natural News via Twitter telling him what he needs to do to fix this ... wonder why he chooses to ignore them? Could it be if he fixes this, he will have to admit that he lied?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354084&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="YX7N9ChVWn7Txo3jRwWiBRzBrMH447NvZS6wjo4rCIw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">craig payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354084">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354085" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487946107"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Could it be if he fixes this, he will have to admit that he lied?"</p> <p>Unless there's a Google Rule that rules violators must admit culpability (which is highly doubtful), Google would be content with having the problem fixed and almost certainly never comment publicly on the outcome. So Adams would be free to continue to spin his conspiracy tales, while triumphantly announcing that Google backed down in the face of a petition from outraged citizenry or similar hogwallow.</p> <p>In the likely event that the delisting is short-term, NN wins - lots of publicity and a revved-up supporter base which probably will make up for any temporary drop in site traffic by buying more NN slop in the future (stories and products).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354085&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="gAIGucY2sKV5__eZyH4tocz0n-eO6NQWFErQHfsR1W8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354085">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354086" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487946457"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>He does not have to admit it to google. All he has to do is fix the tech issues and let Google know and they will reindex. That simple.</p> <p>He has spun a conspiracy as it suits his narrative. If he has to admit to his followers that it was the 'sneaky mobile redirects that he created on his site that caused this, then he is effectively admitting to his followers that he lied about this being a conspiracy - he will certainly spin it otherwise as his followers are so gullible. He has certainly spun this for all its worth.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354086&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uBx77CKMIJpdsyketkvSe0eJAveiNM0D-naKvB8fUkE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354086">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354085#comment-1354085" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354087" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487946573"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I thought we supposed to be corporate shills not communists.</p></blockquote> <p>Have you been to China in the last 20 years or so? If you are ethnic Han and live in the People's Republic of China, there is plenty of money to be made by being both at once.</p> <p>It's harder to pull off if you're a <i>gweilo</i> or you live in the West, but as JP notes, such trivial details don't matter to these people. By their logic, corporate shill = bad, communist = bad, therefore corporate shill = communist.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354087&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="lTzHqFzhxJnySYrbrOqd0n5cmpxDTE5kLrZtSUbMKUw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354087">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354088" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487947520"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@David</p> <blockquote><p>First, I’ll be surprised if this comment gets posted.</p></blockquote> <p>Oh I do love it when people start by writing something like this. It makes it ever so clear they have never been here before. Given the heavily moderation comment sections on many anti-vax blogs and heck, in my experience Natural News itself, I am not surprised they expect it, but it seems like a bit of projection to think everyone else moderates like that.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354088&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NhCERMzNjtiQUAIdqsVp_yahvP9B4AhrTHxZZpMdpHg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354088">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354089" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487947570"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I've been a fan of yours for years, but boy do I disagree on this one. </p> <p>I have not read Adams' rant and I do not intend to. Sure Natural news is woo woo nonsense, but I don't want my search engines filtering my content. You're not trying to tell me that Natural news was showing up when I searched Google scholar are you? We are talking about a general google search?</p> <p>Does anyone honestly think that we will have fewer stupid people if we hide the woo wOO from them?</p> <p>This whole "fake news" idea was invented to shut down dissenting political opinions. </p> <p>As for Milo, look at the state of free speech in this country. Why have things gotten so bad here that we need to have a foreigner come in to remind us that we need to protect our free speech? People actually hate him for having opinions that they disagree with. They actually get violent! There was a riot at Berkley when he went to speak and they actually cancelled the event. Insane!</p> <p>If I hear more facts on Milo, I will change my mind. As for now, all I know is that he was speaking of his own experiences as a 13 year old. He was the child. I am not aware of him going after 13 year olds or others too young as an adult man. Perhaps he would rather not view himself as a victim. The world needs more people like that. Perhaps humor is his way of dealing with it and there's nothing wrong with that.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354089&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="b-dqpzdXBhKBNQdFC7GjWvUQMCyTMvJXP5F2bJHf6Os"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Boy Do I Disagree (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354089">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354090" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487948929"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This blog seems to to extend from the self-fondling egotism of scientists who pitch science as a new religion superseding all others.<br /> Let's not forget that science is by definition a body of knowledge that is always changing and being revised, and thus can thus essentially be defined as the limits of what is known. It isn't all-knowing, in fact it's actively ignorant.<br /> It's the method that counts.<br /> Now apply that method, plus logic, to the shutdown of natural news, infowars and multiple other independent media channels that (just coincidentally) have been labelled as Russian propaganda. (<a href="http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html">http://www.propornot.com/p/home.html</a>).<br /> Is there a correlation here?<br /> And are they Russian propaganda*?</p> <p>* this news angle was singularly the most laughable fake news of 2016 imho and I've worked in media for 22 years</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354090&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="d1T4YTXrlPgA8P1kV-CObTYl250I8NMU9X-UcsZBz7Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">GUY SMILEY (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354090">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354091" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487949250"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Oh I do love it when people start by writing something like this. It makes it ever so clear they have never been here before.</p></blockquote> <p>It also tends to indicate that what follows will be some variety of weapons-grade stupid. In the comment in question, the commenter tries to equate Google's delisting of a website that was engaged in misrepresenting its content to their search engine with a small business owner refusing service to a potential customer based on prejudice. Google is reacting to actions that could harm its other customers, specifically other websites that might be competing in the same space as Natural News. That's like an airline banning a passenger who got drunk in flight and started to beat up on another passenger: the airline wants to make sure that the drunk passenger harms any other of their customers (not to mention their employees) in the future. Whereas a given customer's gender, national or ethnic origin, religious beliefs (if any), or sexual orientation are unlikely to harm any other person. That is why discriminating against customers on any of those grounds should not be tolerated (as well as being bad business; the customer's money is just as good no matter which of those categories the customer belongs to). It's reasonable to turn a customer away due to capacity constraints ("We're sold out/booked") or due to not offering the service ("We prepare Western-style cakes, not moon cakes," or "We are a halal butcher shop, so we don't prepare pork products"), as long as that's done independently of who the customer is.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354091&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="soTZARDKpF7eda2wwBFb6S6TyqYk_d1sX3wtJubI1HQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354091">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354092" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487949483"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Sorry, but in the instance of the baker - they are a business which serves the public.</p> <p>Since what was asked for did not violate any standards of decency, they had no right to refuse service based on sexual orientation.</p> <p>On the part of Google, NN violated the terms of service, which was why they were penalized.</p> <p>Totally different situation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354092&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="B3PFa2FHrwhyXkHnfoaY93bfWIQgB0U1TeVV9eyKVbk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354092">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354093" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487950475"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><blockquote> <blockquote>First, I’ll be surprised if this comment gets posted.</blockquote> <p>Oh I do love it when people start by writing something like this. It makes it ever so clear they have never been here before.</p></blockquote> <p>It also tends to indicate that what follows will be some variety of weapons-grade stupid.</p></blockquote> <p>And what is more amusing, they know it is weapons-grade stupid.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354093&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-XHa7NMFcZCpUSGX4DISPbsxVYuIDPzccbBaWKyBa_0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354093">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354094" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487950595"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh, this may have been posted already, but I did not see it when I looked back into the comments. This article goes into more detail about the issue, and specific pages which apparently had, or still have, problems. I've not been able to check it on a mobile device yet.<br /><a href="https://www.seroundtable.com/google-natural-news-deindex-23463.html">https://www.seroundtable.com/google-natural-news-deindex-23463.html</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354094&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="InVQ8fbo0aH0XzQbSbAFltJbOgkvLUZlbjqzKwcyDI4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354094">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354095" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487951227"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>And Mikey carries on his epic temper tantrum, with new #SaveNaturalNews buttons. He's now raging that Google simply used his violation as an "excuse" to "censor" his speech, and that they would never have done the same thing to a "liberal rag."</p> <p>He has a new "broadcast" up to. I'll probably listen to it for sh!ts and giggles and tell you if it's funny enough to listen to or not... before I get back to work.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354095&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zgRJIM8sjKxDlpSBMHltTVIP39k-enRR1BSbFJu1hcs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354095">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354096" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487951821"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Glad you are doing this service JP. I just don't have to stomach for it any longer as it is just the same stuff over and over.</p> <p>He could end this so easily, the fix is so trivial, but it clearly helps him to milk this as much as possible. His followers are eating it up, and even when faced with the real reasons, they are denying it, or continuing to say it must have been selectively done. I don't think they understand how incredibly common it is for sites to get penalized like this, and they have done it for some pretty big companies as well, such as BMW, who was caught for cloaking, and removed much like Natural News.<br /><a href="http://marketingland.com/10-big-brands-that-were-penalized-by-google-69646">http://marketingland.com/10-big-brands-that-were-penalized-by-google-69…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354096&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Rqf0tcf8NUM00cnO-Qyz0pWXtmQBTUR247LkdnVaO8w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354096">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354097" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487952753"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>JP @223: I find some Russian salads terrifying. Last week a friend posted a picture of the traditional Russian salad "herring in a fur coat" which had been shaped to look like a herring in a beet-purple fur coat, complete with head and fins.</p> <p>I screamed.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354097&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="F18RssYgON_KNCIqOaIvJC3Kv7TD7ZO2PR508MpSLo0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354097">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354098" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487952765"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yep, more of the same. Google is North Korea and this is David vs. Goliath and blah blah blah buy crap in my store and use GoodGopher.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354098&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="MeEbaUjmqgAfKuc2USRrMh8pkBstSfBWPglJO4chZP8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354098">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354099" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487953267"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Last week a friend posted a picture of the traditional Russian salad “herring in a fur coat” </p></blockquote> <p>OK, yeah, that one legit looks terrible, but it tastes really good.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354099&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="SPBjYFtKYzGEMLjJV-0_0E7XMUunBnm7oqC0snoq0pI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354099">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354100" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487953372"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>JustaTech @15<br /> I had to google this. Found a number of similar images, so not sure which made you scream ... I thought it was sort of cute. It would be a great cosplay.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354100&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yIjG-cjqpDN9SflDmovqRkoKf-SjUTKgiFH-nvYz2EU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">stewartt1982 (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354100">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354101" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487953680"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>h, this may have been posted already, but I did not see it when I looked back into the comments. This article goes into more detail about the issue, and specific pages which apparently had, or still have, problems. I’ve not been able to check it on a mobile device yet.<br /><a href="https://www.seroundtable.com/google-natural-news-deindex-23463.html">https://www.seroundtable.com/google-natural-news-deindex-23463.html</a></p></blockquote> <p>The e-mail in the comments section there is very telling. Natural News knows what the problem is. But it is nothing to do with them, it was due to one of their bloggers! (My Bullshït Meter™ is currently bubbling up to the red zone).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354101&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7av8dTl-wDqNb2ty5DBpeUtC8bGZ3h5kXBaBIOehmDg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354101">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354102" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487953961"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>JP</p> <blockquote><p>Well, if Obama can be a communist and a fascist and a Muslim and a godless atheist, anything is possible.</p></blockquote> <p>Say what you will about the Atheist Muslims, they are definitely and non prophet organization.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354102&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="a3q7S7oLdYpPh_sqb5Xz5mmnHPkwVWIUAdF8t4aYLU8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Militant Agnostic (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354102">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354103" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487954039"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"D. Daneeka" is trivially Fucklesworth, just by the by.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354103&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4s0kMfYMoIbqblrvBK8M63n21rK8Q9yvT4APh5W2Q4o"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354103">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354111" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487960070"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yep. Dealt with. I suspected as much.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354111&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vYJoTEZ-K_OvEIbFutIGRWpORurbkuZA7nTFHdd7KUg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354111">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354103#comment-1354103" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354104" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487954313"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>The e-mail in the comments section there is very telling. Natural News knows what the problem is. But it is nothing to do with them, it was due to one of their bloggers!</p></blockquote> <p>Even taking them at their word on that, which I am not, it really doesn't matter if it was just some of their bloggers doing it without permission, they still have the responsibility to stop it, and delisting until it is done is not exactly uncommon. Otherwise those paid links are still there, still capable of generating revenue.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354104&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="U4YjIB7X5H83AgjTGSxaC8hlMKWB4JF932areRz6aTI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354104">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354105" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487954473"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Say what you want, but I see it as censorship.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354105&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tQS9s0foSbNqN5VskP2Z-TQyObqGSqd3GTiK1Nl1U-w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">D Rinehart (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354105">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354121" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487965422"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Google has a set of guidelines that websites are expected to adhere to if they want to be indexed in Google. Mike Adams made a choice to not adhere to them. As a result of that choice, his site was removed from Google. How the f is that censorship?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354121&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EAFo2SsWR9jXPvAlHdViG2uDbl7KDKWF4hzHCqqPDY8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354121">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354105#comment-1354105" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">D Rinehart (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354106" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487954721"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Sorry stewartt1982, but everything about pickled beets, mayonnaise and herring makes me shudder, and then you give it a head? It's a bit much.</p> <p>Though you're right, it would make a fascinating cosplay.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354106&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9USHrCM1c2efd4V5erC2iFgZwv0h-JKw94-s5-yxSCw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354106">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354108" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487955104"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Don't do me any favors by censoring where and from whom I obtain my information. You leave faux Fox need on your Google engine and they have more misinformation than any other site. Some of that information is also quite dangerous to our country. So eliminate Fox need and put Natural News, which I have been following for a decade. If not, I will switch search engines.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354108&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bp-06O31WiHk41WjPQsJbyQ3EKDl8bjpvweSexz7x2o"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lorraine Ridge (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354108">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354110" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487958051"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I've never seen such fake news as "Scienceblogs". What absolute rubbish ...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354110&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cy57W40T6OlgOuLcBps1VXWJS3JWRwNwl4bgREiVvP4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">J (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354110">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354112" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487960167"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>J@26: You didn't like all the posts about TRAPPIST-1? But that's such an incredibly cool discovery!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354112&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cglGKH903cebI671PNDls4wRSpdG1-Ftz3XateqyDsM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JustaTech (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354112">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354113" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487960306"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Mike Adams of Natural news is no saint! He used to be more honest until he started banning people that disagreed with the bad science he used when testing other companies products! He has bad mouthed many other nutritional products just so he could sell his own similar products on his website! He has banned many others from posting on Natural News and his related websites as soon as they attempted to post into his website and blogs to expose what he was doing to make more self-serving money for himself while hurting so so many good people! I'm no lover of Google folks but I want you people to know that Mike Adams is not the nice guy he used to be and he just got a taste of his own medicine by being banned himself!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354113&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bEijfce5weTu--01PddSEbkzGKMQni-9ZnZFcjnl0RE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barry (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354113">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354114" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487962027"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Mike Adams of Natural news is no saint! He used to be more honest ...</p></blockquote> <p>I am struggling with this concept. Adams has been a grifter ever since I first came across his Y2K scam.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354114&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="F2iMmFME8TyFxGEWA-YV9u1lYBFSpswNFX4Th-B9r-A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354114">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354115" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487962462"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Even taking them at their word on that, which I am not, it really doesn’t matter if it was just some of their bloggers doing it without permission...</p></blockquote> <p>No it matters hugely. This will be the excuse that Mike Adams uses to his marks who see through the conspiracy by the CDC and Google angle to deflect blame from himself.</p> <p>Adams will be aware that 90% the internet is now aware of the issue being that he was trying to pull a fast one against Google's terms of service. And after all Adams has to keep his marks spending their money on him.</p> <p>I don't believe the excuse either.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354115&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_nwvf7XJkK1FwB9WLZdxMOqr7IiiBqWiYY9F4-UgRTo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354115">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354116" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487962484"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>You leave faux Fox need on your Google engine [...] So eliminate Fox need and put Natural News, which I have been following for a decade. If not, I will switch search engines.</i></p> <p>While you are at it, Orac, there are too many states nowadays. Please, eliminate three.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354116&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0tYCBjUDTeNxTkVPRtL8QgeQ1Wrlvr7AaVAdFHLKcyE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354116">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354117" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487962521"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's all relative. He used to have the dishonesty dial at 9. Now it's at 11.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354117&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wQgxDvvYgYJqsrozIGuXCF7E2Mu_oOazzqVwgRxCptM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">rs (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354117">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354118" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487963457"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Guaranteed this writer is connected to big corporate pharmaceuticals in some way or other. Either pushing life dependent synthetic drugs onto people or some other worthless snake oil treatment that has limited success. This idiot is entitled to an opinion but loses all credibility when he denies the exposed autism vaccine link. Take the beam out your own eye #fakenews</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354118&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iq_ORiMXCeKN4cjIpD5PqHcvy3eAopoy65ku0ocMs2A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Hezekiah (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354118">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354119" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487963971"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>No it matters hugely. This will be the excuse that Mike Adams uses to his marks who see through the conspiracy by the CDC and Google angle to deflect blame from himself.</p></blockquote> <p>I definitely agree, it totally matters when it comes to how he will present it to his rubes, but in terms of responsibility over a website, whether he knew about it or not is beside the point. But I am sure this will end up being a big part of his excuses once his conspiracy theories are no longer useful.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354119&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LWGtQps-bk9Y91yWOl_zbnkZpn5Pyb7EFZ_0yoPkEM8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354119">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354120" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487965409"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Now that the mainstream media is losing their power of influence it is understandable that pressure is being brought to bear on Google to silence dissenting voices. Clearly, the old establishment is running scared when they couldn't even put their puppet Hillary in the Whitehouse.<br /> There is a changing of the guard happening and the old power blocs don't like it one bit!<br /> These attacks on free speech are to be expected and are a sign that things are moving in the right direction.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354120&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="gFpoLRZWC1q_HXxuv9tPZDRrdC_1s7EfPI1we7C4YQc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Aspilats (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354120">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354132" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487973108"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>WTF are you talking about? This has nothing to do with free speech or pressure put on Google!<br /> Mike Adams was using sneaky redirects on the mobile version of his site which is against Google's guidelines. Any site that does that gets removed until they fix it. Happens to 100's of sites a day.<br /> Perhaps you should ask Mike Adams why he is ranting and raving so you gullible idiots are falling for his narrative and why he is not getting on and fixing this. He could be back in Google tomorrow if he wanted to. All he has to do is fix the redirects. Its that simple.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354132&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="W38yH_327voeVmKA4CD-2m_vT3n9D8UQdSXFKkSAw6M"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354132">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354120#comment-1354120" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Aspilats (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354122" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487965603"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This Webpage is "fake news" BS</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354122&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FXwf026LGBtpCgKej-LDkMtKXCp7TzYnVaSjuiSysYQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NotBuyinIT (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354122">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354131" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487972874"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yet it is still listed in Google; unlike Mike Adams junk!!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354131&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NATgPBP4bRrPgK3-gNO2FNejE0JyPzIiBas_5i3ZIew"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354131">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354122#comment-1354122" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NotBuyinIT (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354123" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487966222"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>In other news in a(n) horrific case I've mentioned before:</p> <p>Emil and Rodica Radita were today convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to prison with no chance of parole for 25 years in the death of their son Alex, who was 15 years old and weighed just 37 pounds at the time of his death. Alex got prayers instead of insulin for his diabetes.</p> <p>I had intended to be in court for the verdict, but instead spent most of the day in a local ER due to a skirmish (which I lost) with gravity and the possibility of a busted spleen.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354123&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cxMA3p3BE4PxDvo6d8JyPE0iUHpAkdjwEoPOS3QO-U4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354123">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354124" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487966516"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>They actually get violent! There was a riot at Berkley when he went to speak and they actually cancelled the event. Insane!</p> <p>If I hear more facts on Milo, I will change my mind. As for now, all I know is that he was speaking of his own experiences as a 13 year old. He was the child. I am not aware of him going after 13 year olds or others too young as an adult man. Perhaps he would rather not view himself as a victim. The world needs more people like that. Perhaps humor is his way of dealing with it and there’s nothing wrong with that.</p></blockquote> <p>Oh FFS the D-Bag incited a mob against a black actress because she's black. The full transcripts are available for his paedophilia defence; avail yourself of them before whinging like he does. As for Mikey Adams, what part of he violated G-gle's TOS don't you freakin understand before whinging yet again about censorship. It's obvious Mikey's readership has the collective mental acuity of a turnip, not to mention these self-proclaimed freedum fighters.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354124&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ccP6EfLZ4_12_BFl9QuZPyUJBx2KqZ-pIz5R8dxJXV4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Science Mom (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354124">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354125" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487966667"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>craig payne writes (#229),</p> <p>Could it be if he fixes this, he will have to admit that he lied?</p> <p>MJD says,</p> <p>If he doesn't fix it soon his customers will lose faith and turn to medical science for what afflicts them in mind and body.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354125&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_6lA7F0imXrd8pDQ0LYyTtusNbK1iLdzz0P9kue_EYU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael J. Dochniak (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354125">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354126" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487967022"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>With all the fake news being published which most of it I believe it is beginning to be hard to believe anything. The 23rd of February I watched Dr. Oz and he had a publisher of fake news on his show. The man said his company made $6k + per fake news article they published.<br /> I think I will check out all news I believe in and find out what their political preference is. If they support President Trump I will be more inclined to believe them. If the protesters don't watch out the Communist's Agenda will take hold.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354126&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="717mJXUX5ZdkkQ44Hydns9_zl7hHz8wa5HLfm6jJjv0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Edgar Duvall (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354126">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354127" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487967261"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Just before I had to haul my carcass off this morning, someone was equating this event to book burning.</p> <p>The books remain on their shelves and are available to anyone who wishes to use them. The sole thing that has happened is that a third party who, at their own expense put index cards for the contents of that library in the card file that they own and operate, yanked the cards because the library in question violated the rules that apply to every single one of the libraries whose contents have cards in the file.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354127&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="EWQ0Kd2pcYrR9XQszo30iFnExRncljp626gMA0cQKWo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354127">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354128" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487968908"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"Mike Adams of Natural news is no saint!"</p> <p>I find this hard to believe. When I Google 'Mike Adams is a saint' I get 11,700,000 hits.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354128&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_uUsvx7_2LZFQkemsYytkMQb66Uu6fG8rVigXsxDv-Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354128">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354129" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487971964"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Boy Do I Disagree<br /> I’ve been a fan of yours for years</i>. </p> <p>And I have been Marie of Roumania for years.</p> <p><i>Perhaps [Milo Yiannopoulos] would rather not view himself as a victim.</i></p> <p>Then it is probably a mistake for him to continually whinge about his victimisation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354129&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="z5bz-1V5ej9I7yH3gGAtABmruAnICIBuWk6ToXvbE0k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354129">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354130" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487972182"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>“Mike Adams of Natural news is no saint!”</p> <p>I find this hard to believe. When I Google ‘Mike Adams is a saint’ I get 11,700,000 hits.</p></blockquote> <p>If you search for the phrase "Mike Adams is a saint", you get 1 hit on Google and none on GoodGopher.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354130&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="sIF-KgEvNYjn7ewfA7NsG595-00GfaaRJovk3G66KN0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris Preston (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354130">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354133" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487973112"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I did not realise how slavish and dependent my thinking had become, until I read the 53rd identical comment left by NN fanbois who had obeyed Mikey's instructions to come here and boast about their intellectual independence.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354133&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uFzMNqQjk5scLwUNTLts-ov7Dp9BK_7YWXfaEa4OU50"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354133">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354134" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487973503"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>and they are allowed to post here uninhibited without censorhip. Perhaps one of these NN fan boys could explain why the comment on the NN post from a Google staff member about what was needed to fix the problem was not approved ... go figure they complain about censorhip</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354134&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="On2tGK9Ez79BC6kUr-nvdLM5so3Pi0jDYePMAKchwhs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354134">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354133#comment-1354133" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354135" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487976907"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You want to see a lot of quack science articles? Check out this site: <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/">http://scienceblogs.com/</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354135&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Wl8odOxBIbFL-s6kBBe57rToiGK9BY1_IaJJAtxOAco"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ryan (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354135">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354136" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487977000"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>And they sensor the comments too.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354136&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vatwDxfJskz9Y-EOdUTbvv1SpAc9MVenWGhDJPDRhAM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ryan (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354136">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354167" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488040877"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh? What kind of sensor are they using to detect comments?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354167&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="oZAZcU9nFnraCD1igRgIWd5yw7la43iOhveP_1ssLNU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354167">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354136#comment-1354136" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ryan (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354137" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487984459"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>seems this is using copyrighted material on your website</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354137&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7j0OE6_afq3_4llJ7YvjjULg09NZixSJ2FQr2mF-p6Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">daniel (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354137">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354168" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488040937"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Google "fair use", should any copyrighted content be on the site.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354168&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0MkUwu77RD_3P4vurLoPIGkXhFrNiJwW7WhMI0bZwi0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354168">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354137#comment-1354137" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">daniel (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354138" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487985398"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Richard Wicks, #182: "Ignaz Semmelweis was a lunatic doctor who advocated washings hands before handling patients because he believed that tiny organisms caused illness. He was put into a mental asylum where he was beaten to death."<br /> Semmelweis did not believe in 'tiny organisms", but that decaying organic matter caused disease.This was decades before Pasteur produced evidence for the germ theory. Semmelweis was committed because his behavior changed. He suffered serious depression, fought with everyone around him, drank heavily, and showed signs of dementia. Modern physicians who have researched the available evidence have variously suggested Alzheimer's disease or tertiary syphilis, among other conditions, as the cause of his symptoms.<br /> His treatment in the insane asylum was, sadly, typical of the times. He was beaten, restrained, wrapped in wet sheets, and suffered other abuses. His death was due to gangrene, which has been attributed to skin sloughing from his restraints.<br /> None of this is relevant to Mike Adams, or to his violation of Google's ToS. None of this is relevant to the fact that vaccines have been studied for many decades by physicians, epidemiologists, biostatisticians, and other scientists, and no evidence of the evils claimed by antivaxers has ever shown up.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354138&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="MQPE9LfwfhaWbAArAFDBBDQWRyu1DSyj_0P9IM33gzw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354138">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354139" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487986259"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Milo Yiannopoulos can view his pubescent sexual experiences however he chooses, and this is not the issue with him. The really repugnant part is here: "Yiannopoulos failed to report child sex abuse so extreme that he himself said it “beggared belief.”<br /> The admission was made in a 2015 interview with comedian and commentator Joe Rogan. At 4:46 in the video found here, the openly-homosexual Yiannopoulos explains how he attended the “boat parties” and “house parties” of Hollywood figures of the stature of film producer Bryan Singer (who has been accused of minor sex abuse). At these events, grown men were using for sex boys who were, as Yiannopoulos puts it, “very young—very young.”" (<a href="http://observer.com/2017/02/breitbart-milo-yiannopoulos-joe-rogan-podcast-child-sex-abuse/">http://observer.com/2017/02/breitbart-milo-yiannopoulos-joe-rogan-podca…</a>) Even that wasn't the problem. The terrible thing about what he related is that even though he was staggered by what he saw, he said nothing, and beyond that, his own words indicate that after seeing this, he continued to attend those parties. Even if he was afraid to come forward, shouldn't his shock and presumed disgust have kept him from going after the first one?<br /> He can say whatever he wants, and long distance diagnosis isn't worth much, but to me he seems to be something of a psychopath.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354139&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Wxu_cbvT8eySHHB1O6hUjedT1M3RFCjmbcCPQHm8Lw4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354139">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354140" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487987624"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If this censorship is fact than it is completely and utterly Orwellian control over the information people are entitled to seeing and using at their own accord. This blogger, whomever wrote this article is highly misinformed about the nature of a free world. Not to mention google is based out of the U.S.A., which has an amendment acknowledging the freedom of speech in very simple and easy to understand language.<br /> I understand that Google is a private company and we're using their services but this looks as if it's the start to censorship within the United States. I am afraid to know what else Google is black-listing from the web.<br /> We should never have to censor any news platform no matter what the topic or what people think of it. These are the ideologies of why the U.S.A. was founded in the first place; in order to maintain and uphold a free and open world, held to the highest standards by the Constitution.<br /> We live in a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy, and most certainly not a socialistic empire controlled by the government. We are the government, We are the people. If you don't like it, LEAVE!!!</p> <p>P.S. This article is a disgrace to our ancestors who came to this land seeking freedom from oppression abroad. You should be disgusted with yourself. But this is only an opinion and I will respect that, since I seek to have my opinions respected and not impeded on as well.</p> <p>Sincerely,<br /> Alex Michael Gabriel<br /> Snapchat: Alex4691<br /> Twitter: Alex.M.Gabriel</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354140&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="pfAwyZyUG4GQmVgoElOSTHyXtSoi05C0PDm6rDQGGCs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alex M Gabriel (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354140">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354165" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488040739"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If Google is the web for you, you're really, really poorly informed.<br /> Google is a search engine company, there are quite a few other search engine companies out there.<br /> Google is not the web host of NN, NN has their own web hosting service that they use and their pages are still up, easily available to anyone who knows how to type an address into the URL bar.</p> <p>Now, companies have reputations to uphold, if one searches for a site and the results aren't what they should be, that reputation suffers and investors don't receive a return on their investments. That is legally actionable and the company CEO could lose badly in a court of law, should the company's stockholders seek redress for their lack of return on investment.<br /> So, Google took steps to protect the reputation of their product.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354165&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RUY41yZdDjcAMc5839QHlgorDI65AhEsDGGkUZuOyCk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354165">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354140#comment-1354140" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alex M Gabriel (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354141" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487988255"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>D Rinehart</p> <blockquote><p>Say what you want, but I see it as censorship. </p></blockquote> <p>Does the NN website still exist? Is it still hosted? Can you type the url into the navigation bar of your browser and reach the site?</p> <p>If so, it’s <b>not censored</b>. </p> <p>End of story.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354141&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6iKJuwuS3MKoi_CUewCPa06VZwPNjw99WajZ1EsQlvE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chemmomo (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354141">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354144" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488004647"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I believe that they only pulled down his listings many of which attack other company's that sell good quality nutrient products just so Mike Adams can turn readers to his own line of products. This guy has done some good things in the past but now he's not much more than a raving nut case that could care less how he hurts others for his own self-financial gain! His website is still up so they really did not put him out of business. Mr Adams has banned many people from posting in his websites when they call him out on his BS bad science claims to hurt his product competitors! He just got a taste of his own medicine! He had it coming to him and please understand I am no lover of Google. He just had it coming because he deserved it!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354144&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="26nv1pFcjjUNWeQvh15Lly86Ckn-oVQfMeYf1asPDRA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barry (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354144">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354141#comment-1354141" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chemmomo (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354142" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487988348"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Google is obviously getting too big for its own boots, there is NOTHING in Mike Adams site that could be described a dangerous. .. as with all things, it is people’s choice to visit this site read and make their own decisions. No one is forced to visit ... so Google there are plenty of things happening in the world which you seem to ignore and therefore accept and do nothing about it...... shame on you for this censorship it is not up to you to decide what people can read.. looks more like comrade Google and China... OR Mao and China, and other countries where we have seen books burnt Google is in precarious company. .. I demand you return full access to Mike Adam’s website immediately.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354142&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5op-OSvIPQDg7cLpuEQHGUrGIas_PlIPVKHlIKSoBTI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jen Boon (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354142">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354145" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488017913"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Jen you need to pay attention! Google did not remove his website! It's still there! They delisted his links! Many of which he has bad mouthed other people's company's that sell proven high-quality nutrient products just so he could turn them to purchase them from his own website! He's not the nice guy that he used to be!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354145&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PtkLViJGmaHhWszxg77O4BUjf84HqBizj2mbBlaa8tc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barry (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354145">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354142#comment-1354142" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jen Boon (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354166" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488040801"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Erm, you do realize that this site is not Google?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354166&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="f4-l_yIjMpD9l9HSzFGcWom-q4HHvaAotU4RX-DQULo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354166">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354142#comment-1354142" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jen Boon (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354143" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1487991301"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>I think I will check out all news I believe in and find out what their political preference is. If they support President Trump I will be more inclined to believe them</i></p> <p>I can't help wondering how much Edgar Duvall has already lost in previous Trump scams like Trump University and the Trump Nutient-supplement MLM. He seems like a serial sucker.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354143&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-B_nhdTdg9X75uY6-sF9PNkKa_NnWNNhE0vA_0J1qFg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 24 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354143">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354146" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488019427"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>And they sensor the comments too.</p></blockquote> <p>Use of sensors and associated instruments aids objective evaluation of the comments.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354146&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="OU1BFWKkCnBzuw2okzwxkkLu0cx6GbNlpzmG4Gpv-L0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354146">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354147" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488022472"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I really couldn't be less fond of a website than I am of ScienceBlogs, which has apparently never met an official story about anything that it didn't love. That said, the mega-players in "alternative" media these days are just the flip side of the disinformation coin--although they generally still carry much more valuable information. The power players of the world wouldn't have thrown their mainstream media minions under the bus this last election season without alternatives to fall back on, to appease the many people who have realized that criminal conspiracies are their bread-and-butter. </p> <p>No need to worry about NN--the issue with Google will be resolved in short order, and business for NN will be booming more than ever, thanks to a plethora of righteous indignation about this alleged attempt at censorship by "The Man." And we'll be flooded with stories about how "We The People" saved the day with our outcry against it. The media manipulation strategy being used here is nothing new.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354147&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ZV6FHM16Mk-Ie-ZlqhgrusN4FutkTc5fLr9JeRLPB8k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NWO Reporter (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354147">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354169" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488041118"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Nothing manipulates the media more than the truth does, huh?<br /> Put funky redirects on your site, Google and other search engines will delist your site, just to protect their own reputation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354169&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3kD29QrjcNkzLHdypg_4kgnjO5SKcOKwR5mQOP20YFM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354169">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354147#comment-1354147" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NWO Reporter (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354148" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488022664"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Jen Boon: " I demand you return full access to Mike Adam’s website immediately." Who are you asking? Orac? Me? Do you really think anyone here decides what Google lists or how? Tell them.<br /> Anyway, you never lost full access to Mike Adams. All you have to do is type in the URL in the address bar of your browser, or if that's as hard for you as figuring out that Orac is not really the secret identity of Sergei Brin, use another search engine. Just Google "search engine" .</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354148&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Qk2WTKhNnIhbVEiME25tFxniN-4MCIIOdFuJ35XF1wc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354148">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354149" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488022752"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I just took a look at NN. It's still there. It's also hilarious how overwrought Mikey has become over this. What's not so funny is that the rubes who follow him will probably believe his BS.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354149&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="i2kUCBgKPZW-9rML_-o0zaN0gz0HSOy-S0SLOffz3Pk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354149">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354154" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488024570"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's amazing that Mikes hard core Natural News followers are so BLIND! and Dumb? Maybe! A load of people including me already explained that his website was never taken down! And also explained that only his BS filled listings were delisted for breaking the Google rules. Google HATES Link sellers! It robs the hard working honest website owners!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354154&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="UNjKtOMKMoJQev01PtbMiSqRHqwVE0DLDme-AIGAMdM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barry (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354154">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354149#comment-1354149" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354150" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488022957"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Doug, "And they sensor the comments too" makes sense when you realize that Sensor is a brand of razor.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354150&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="CLc8OS7J7m__tVF8n0ctoqLKpzJ1pphzklZV_iFJDH0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354150">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354170" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488041353"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>While I'm typing this, I'm monitoring several hundred IDS and environmental sensors.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354170&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="eS04RYR7AW0C9gwqqadN04pDs6LbxG-kN6HD7keMn4U"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354170">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354150#comment-1354150" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354151" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488023957"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The Natural News supporters floating in here should probably read the e-mail correspondence with a PR person from Natural News in this comment, before complaining about how unfair it is:<br /><a href="https://www.seroundtable.com/google-natural-news-deindex-23463.html#comment-3173441081">https://www.seroundtable.com/google-natural-news-deindex-23463.html#com…</a></p> <p>The part where he admits that "some bloggers on Natural News were "selling outbound links"" is rather important to this story. It means the site was doing things that are against the rules, the kind of thing that Google regularly delists sites for. Lots and lots of websites get caught doing these things, and find themselves delisted. Natural News is not special, it has not been picked on and given special harsh treatment. They have been given a standard penalty for sites doing what they were doing.</p> <p>You'd think that might give people some pause over the claims of censorship and targeting NN. When someone from Natural News PR is saying that is what was going on, and indicates behaviour which is actually breaking the rules, it starts to seem rather silly to say it is a horrible conspiracy.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354151&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="t0RZ-ofZsQU2Oz9o0BdExzvRfoy3cGmoIiNh3hWtUoc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354151">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354152" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488024309"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Delisting NN for terms of service violations is NOT censorship. It is a private company deciding not to carry a site on its private corporate service. For all you libertarians and Trumpettes, this is the free enterprise you so claim to love. This is the free market at work. If your local newsstand decides to stop carrying, say, the Daily Mail or Modern Gardener for any reason at all, that is their right. It's a business decision. The movie theatre can choose not to carry movies about monsters or fluffy bunnies. There is no National Search Engine Regulatory Administration that can order Google to list or not list any site. Any Americans who still don't get this probably don't deserve to vote because when it comes to the First Amendment you don't have the First Clue. Others from elsewhere, get the message. We don't operate the way you do. Private individuals and corporate entities can embrace or reject anyone else's speech on their platform as they choose. If you don't like it, use Bing, or Yahoo, or DuckDuckGo. Or demand that Orac resurrect AskJeeves.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354152&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="f-BXiA8mGnYsV7y1HmKxnYPwE67jyDNSTSNPuvG9teI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354152">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354153" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488024443"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>And when I say "the kind of thing that Google regularly delists sites for" I don't mean they do it a few few days for a few select sites, these penalties are applied to hundreds, if not thousands of sites each day. This isn't some strange and rare event, it happens to sites big and small.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354153&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="I3SVxg3Ol3Xi5VTUFus-qql9xEco7rk04mMdYFBNhH0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354153">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354155" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488024789"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ #46, Namma</p> <p>"Pablum?" You call our host's postings pablum? Have you looked at any posts besides this one?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354155&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7UOZIfKV2wTjPpYHG8g5_Xlq2NVPJNokTWm5wuAqqJc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">sirhcton (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354155">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354156" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488028280"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I haven't had a chance to read the newest articles over at NN, but I am curious if anyone else has. From the titles I did see he is basically admitting they were selling outbound links, but is now accusing Google of selectively applying the rules, and ignoring their own violations of the same rules. Would be interested in seeing what they found and if they are misunderstanding the problem they had, versus what they found on Blogspot etc.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354156&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="383V6dWuN2HtFdzmsyxECHPnhDg-CLSCEGbNdFZR1K8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Travis (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354156">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354157" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488031414"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The post by NWO Reporter is really scary. So the "power players" have torched mainstream media disinformation sources, in order to feed us more disinformation from "alternative" news sources! And who is "NWO Reporter", really? Aaaagh! It makes you want to crawl into a hole and reject all information, which is undoubtedly what They want. No matter where you turn, there are false flags everywhere! I'd stock up on survival gear, but They make enormous profits off that too. (!!!!?!?!?!?$&amp;#*^!!)</p> <p>I couldn't stomach reading all the articles on NN furiously denouncing the Google Overlords and flinging tu quoque accusations left and right (I stopped counting at nine such articles featured on the home page as of this morning). I do know that the very best way to get back into Google's good graces and get relisted is to declare war on them. That Mike Adams is a very cagey fellow.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354157&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="kVoM3yCS-N9wj5L2IkrZAZK58z-MLp5bEq3cSMI9Di0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354157">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354158" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488032306"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, if he was selling links, case solved. He might find himself deindexed for months.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354158&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="y6cPS9r1QF1kbIpVZmLVWKc5JWCyRXr6jknncexaaMw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Brian Deer (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354158">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354159" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488032499"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Alex M Gabriel<br /> This blogger, whomever wrote this article</i><br /> I love grammatical hypercorrection.</p> <p><i>Not to mention google is based out of the U.S.A.,</i><br /> I am fored to deduce that Delaware is not part of the US. </p> <p><i>which has an amendment acknowledging the freedom of speech in very simple and easy to understand language.</i><br /> But evidently not sufficiently simple or easy to understand for Alex M. Gabriel!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354159&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0QU1lPbfw1ohc_m41onrvdWrAEmo2j83QPKzBdSdmck"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354159">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354160" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488034542"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I admired <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/02/23/google-delists-mike-adams-his-hilarious-tantrum-about-the-conspiracy-behind-it-is-epic-as-is-my-schadenfreude/comment-page-1/#comment-457781">Aaron Russell's dumbth</a> so much I felt obliged to bring it back to the end of the thread, as a tribute to the power of the human imagination. Also I wondered whether he is making up his own personal collection of Alt-Facts or whether they are common knowledge in the human centipede of Antivaxxia.</p> <p><i>Google ...is more than 51% owned by Government hedge funds</i><br /> That would probably come as a surprise to Brin and Page.</p> <p>&lt;i&lt;the fact that the CDC itself owns 75% of all vaccine patents, </p> <p>It was not enough to say "the CDC own more than 21 vaccine patents" (afer RFK Jnr) or "the CDC owns 57 vaccine patents" (after Ginger Taylor). Some numptie had to go one better and pump the number up to <b>75%</b>. How many thousand is that?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354160&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="zeRYn9mmhvxDmcFZAAevcXipKUJd1j0NTomnIYrsbsg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354160">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354161" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488036744"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Actual video of someone trying to reason with a Mike Adams supporter.</p> <p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevision/videos/1489581401083965/">https://www.facebook.com/NTDTelevision/videos/1489581401083965/</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354161&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="BqkKk4Bz-KT1dKlh4CZnaLKbpeZ1nbrBZiaSie-S9JQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dangerous Bacon (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354161">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354162" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488038331"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Once you touch Alex Jones, you are irrelevant.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354162&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="i02kEOeDXLtUwvJL7D7VHcmqmHV_QNp_spe7PS3v-Ik"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Robin Solis (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354162">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354163" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488038425"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Why not make everyone use their real identity.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354163&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rZW-Nfo0qAEfuwdeRIn8VmbLGA7j0Lf9xmQ_8zwNdLE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Robin Solis (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354163">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354164" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488040474"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yes Alex M. Gabriel. America always welcomes people fleeing persecution.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354164&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4MqDA6y3mRVF3D-b5ncUi5FSOv9WW189RM_UEKbww28"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NumberWang (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354164">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354171" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488042429"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><a href="http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-269998">Natural News was not banned from Google over fake news</a><br /> A Google webmaster violation is the reason this website was penalized by Google, not its controversial nature.</p> <blockquote><p>&gt;<br /> Postscript: John Mueller, a Webmaster Trends Analysts at Google, has now posted on Twitter saying Google did post a message about the penalty in Google Search Console. He also added a thread that the site was penalized due to sneaky mobile redirects. John said:</p> <blockquote><p>&gt;<br /> Hi! I work with the Google Search team. We’re seeing a bit of confusion &amp; incorrect stories circulating about what’s happening here, so just to be super clear — Natural News is using a sneaky mobile redirect, which is prohibited by our webmaster guidelines (there’s a bit about this kind of issue at <a href="https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2015/10/detect-and-get-rid-of-unwanted-sneaky.html">https://webmasters.googleblog.com/2015/10/detect-and-get-rid-of-unwante…</a> ). These redirects aren’t always easy to reproduce, they’re sometimes in widgets or served by ad networks, and can target specific devices, browsers, or user locations. When we last checked, there was one on <a href="http://blogs">http://blogs</a>. naturalnews. com/bentonite-clay-a-natural-medicine-cabinet-must-have/ . As soon as this is cleaned up, the site can submit a reconsideration request through Search Console, and once that’s reviewed things will return to normal. No action has been taken based on the editorial content of this site. </p></blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Well now, imagine that.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354171&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PQCvpIN7r7lodG28P4WCf_GPgtgFRpmxrkZ1XxMXG8I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Liz Ditz (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354171">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354172" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488042443"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Edward Snowden; "The answer to bad speech is not censorship. The answer to bad speech is more speech. We have to exercise and spread the idea that critical thinking matters now more than ever, given the fact that lies seem to be getting very popular," Snowden told Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey.</p> <p>Thomas Jefferson; "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it."..."Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter."...Whose foot is to be the measure to which ours are all to be cut or stretched?</p> <p>John Adams;"“But none of the means of information are more sacred, or have been cherished with more tenderness and care by the settlers of America, than the press.”..."“The liberty of the press is essential to the security of the state.”</p> <p>George Washington"“If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter, which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences that can invite the consideration of mankind, reason is of no use to us; the freedom of speech may be taken away, and dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep, to the slaughter.”</p> <p>US Constitution"“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354172&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="IIVP8FvyNUK1upQ86mWh_3Pi6_iNiIz0UCvidI5TT-k"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">whisperingsage (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354172">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354178" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488059978"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>So, when did Google replace the US Congress?<br /> If it hasn't, then your entire series of quotes is irrelevant, which it is anyway, as delisting a website from searches over a sneaky redirect code is not censorship. It's no more censorship than my regulating what a guest in my home says.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354178&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="x5dek-t2An5S-D1_0IKjr65cu_v26snrXYTaz_Aedjs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354178">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354172#comment-1354172" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">whisperingsage (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354173" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488042518"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Darn it, screwed up the html.</p> <p>Natural News was not banned from Google over fake news<br /> A Google webmaster violation is the reason this website was penalized by Google, not its controversial nature.</p> <p><a href="http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-269998">http://searchengineland.com/natural-news-not-banned-google-fake-news-26…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354173&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cCGXE0Pcx5YghHlfb0H5mgj9toht3x7_hgpX9niej58"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Liz Ditz (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354173">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354174" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488042847"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>It was not enough to say “the CDC own more than 21 vaccine patents” (afer RFK Jnr) or “the CDC owns 57 vaccine patents” (after Ginger Taylor). Some numptie had to go one better and pump the number up to 75%. How many thousand is that?</p></blockquote> <p>We're getting into Joe McCarthy territory here.</p> <p>For those kids and non-USA folk who don't recognize the reference: Sen. Joseph McCarthy became infamous in the 1950s for his Communist witch hunts. He gave a series of speeches in which he claimed to have in his hand "a list of [number pulled from his posterior in real time] Communists working for the State Department." Sounds like the anti-vax crowd is playing a similar game with claims about vaccine patents.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354174&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FxAVwJWpJPLQ84lFnEDYqJqikxfVKjiFLMwYMjGCl28"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354174">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354175" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488057828"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>I admired Aaron Russell’s dumbth so much I felt obliged to bring it back to the end of the thread</p></blockquote> <p>I concur; I made a start, but the task of trying to rescue data has proved to be a tedious distraction from properly treating this underappreciated entry.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354175&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="TzAImm-KldAOs9h6kU0H19WQi9she4F07mAuiVAbTU8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354175">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354176" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488058153"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Also I wondered whether he is making up his own personal collection of Alt-Facts</p></blockquote> <p>Or Ctrl-Alt-Facts.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354176&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="2TKrMK9xGvHShqA9yWV-viFadjjnqeIAgEW56AUdPvA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354176">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354177" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488058990"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You leftist fucktards!! You are the wretchedest, scummiest, quakiest pieces of shit out there. Mike Adams has done wonderful, pro-human research for years. How much are you being paid off to talk shit by George Soros, Monsanto, and big Pharma. You anti-human scum-fucks.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354177&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VNbJCfZ4OvJTkOImJOSO7RMWei_QoOaM6f0FU1BQlo8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">America Will Win (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354177">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354193" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488137198"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Odd, how am I getting paid by companies and individuals that I've never had contact with?<br /> I've been paid by the US Army and my government service company. For the former, to be a SF medic, for the latter, to provide security for contacted government cloud based services.</p> <p>I'm also at a loss of how one can be a corporate type and be a leftist, which would imply socialism, not corporatism. </p> <p>No, you sirrah, are an idiot.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354193&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="6RnOJrmz60hLk0FQTJTwMC9C-f4V4uEkd-5jwdMgMi0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354193">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354177#comment-1354177" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">America Will Win (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354179" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488063593"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is terrible news. I have never heard of Natural News, but definitely don't agree with Google using its power to effectively censor a browsers access to information. This kind of behavior is a slippery slope down a one way path. Google should be destroyed.</p> <p>Fortunately, there is an alternative DuckDuckGo.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354179&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4WcanJShThUQ7TDLYeWNVGpwujDW4CHQhLtXxKwfa3E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Brian Chivis (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354179">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354180" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488068748"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Once you touch Alex Jones, you are irrelevant.</p></blockquote> <p>As our surgeon host and several of the regular commenters I'm sure can attest, sometimes double gloving is prudent - though Jones-barrier certified gloves are thick and reduce dexterity.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354180&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="sHJYSGd_97CDpS4b6YCSmecU37w0SM0B9YDrWNBpkX0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354180">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354181" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488073329"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>because it's relevant.<br /><a href="https://xkcd.com/1357/">https://xkcd.com/1357/</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354181&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="FWKAOSdTGyHtiJFg2IOZrKHqXbMkHjU_LUK6pDjWdTY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Julian Frost (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354181">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354184" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488075580"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Alas, my life is too hectic to review XKCD on anything near a regular basis.<br /> That said, I'm bookmarking that one!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354184&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="P8nnqAL23sQcSR9vz7f4vZHu9Y90dDrV3tQsBfpO5XM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354184">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354181#comment-1354181" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Julian Frost (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354182" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488074505"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>To be the devils advocate for a moment, though NaturalNews should have been neutered long before it caused so much harm.<br /> 1) Though a conspiracy theory and Marketing NaturalNews was always reliable to have some quick response to anything that contradicted its views. This was a valuable source of information for those of us who track fake news, erroneous beliefs, latest medical scams.<br /> 2) This will not change anything. As mentioned NaturalNews is already endemic and has created progeny before it was removed from the gene pool by earning the Darwin Award. In addition Conspiracy Theory loves to be persecuted because that proves their conspiracy theory, not to mention the backfire effect.<br /> 3) Last as an aside, have you noticed that Respectful Insolence headlines are similar to Conspiracy Theory headlines. Long, lots of punctuation marks, ALL CAPS, and words like hilarious, epic, tantrum.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354182&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="czVFd55O7M-5SDKE9UeQbwZMEMB-Gjq7qGh09cwVmSY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Robert Blew (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354182">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354183" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488075365"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The most ironic part of all this is that Mike Adams set up his own search engine, Good Gopher, whose main selling point is that it censors sites that disagree with his own worldview. "Do as I say, not as I do".</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354183&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ee9Mn0XDMiQRcsQMoNIjvxqHfXTEP9bc3roQLk_yWAY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Colin (not verified)</span> on 25 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354183">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354186" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488101161"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>You are exactly right and on the money Colin! Mike Adams has been banning hundreds maybe thousands of people that attempt to expose his BS bad science before they can get it to his many brainwashed readers. His posts of lies against honest nutrient company's selling quality products that help others just so he can turn his readers to his own products that are listed in his website has been hurting a large amount of people. Both people that have been selling and taking the important nutrition products that help them stay healthy and have been for many years. His posts of lies have many people questioning the very products that have helped them stay healthy to the point of having then quit taking them. There could be dozens of people that have died because of this and I put this on his soul to deal with in this life and the hereafter. YES! Mike Adams the So Called Health Ranger Has Hurt Many Others And His Websites Being De-listed my Google was well deserved! He just got a taste of his own medicine! He had this coming for a long time and its about time it caught up to him! I feel absolutely NOTHING for his whining and I hope that he reads this post!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354186&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iz0tWIk9udnZfwEEMA7TPjvjJaAWkGDzxmRDRVIMgOw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barry (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354186">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354183#comment-1354183" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Colin (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354185" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488086940"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Nice article! There's a world opening up for me - yours as well as theirs. Careful, though, the major problem with alt-right people is that they don't have any sense of humor and no ability of selfreflection. And that is dangerous. They're like the witch hunters, the only people who firmly believed that witches existed!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354185&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="PtaBNNkWo8Fk7zdkbhskJsI-3-pmKj3JBTz7N6--Umw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Helena (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354185">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354187" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488101955"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I find it fascinating that so many (allegedly different) people arrive here, clutching their pearls, making stirring speeches about censorship, having clearly failed to read (or comprehend) either the original post or the numerous responses.</p> <p>It reminds me of the responses to the article about the death of the "Wellness Warrior". Essentially, the pattern is the same. These people feel the need to blurt what they believe to be true without pausing to consider the facts, utterly failing to engage with clear evidence which contradicts their opinion.</p> <p>It is all entertaining enough while they remain in cyberspace. However, proper havoc can ensue when they escape into real life. For example, one of their ilk managed to become president of the world's most powerful country.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354187&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="eyDx0KsRBXdIt4sxeO0AlAhSoQEf3HATL2kQd_rQEFs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DrBollocks (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354187">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354188" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488105245"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Your right on DR. Bollocks! People, espessilly Mike Adams readers need to know that there has been and is a VERY dark side to his actions that hurt many others including his own readers! LOTS OF THEM! Mike Adams has been banning hundreds maybe thousands of people that attempt to expose his BS bad science before they can get it posted to his many 100 percent trusting readers. His posts of lies against honest nutrient company’s selling quality products that help others just so he can turn his readers to his own products that are listed in his website has been hurting a huge amount of people. This indludes both people that have been manufacturing, selling and taking the important nutrition products that have helped them stay healthy and have been for many years. His posts of lies have many people questioning the very products that have helped them stay healthy to the point of having them quit taking the safe products that Mike Adams has posted negitive information about them. There could be dozens of people that have died because of this and I put this on Mike Adams soul to deal with in this life and the hereafter. YES! Mike Adams the So Called Health Ranger Has Hurt Many Others And His Websites Being De-listed in Google for posting impropper links by Google Rules was well deserved! He just got a taste of his own medicine! He had this coming for a long time and its about time it caught up to him! I feel absolutely NOTHING for his whining, threats and bad faith to his readers. I hope that he reads this post!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354188&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="5ympHnRuP00WnIq1sSLs1Dy42oefOQLfKyLBwP06Ot8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barry (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354188">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354187#comment-1354187" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DrBollocks (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354194" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488137534"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's actually more dangerous than that.<br /> Remember this? <a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pizzagate-gunman-surrendered-after-finding-no-evidence-fake-conspiracy-court-n692321">http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pizzagate-gunman-surrendered-after-…</a><br /> He followed that online fake news conspiracy nonsense, "went to personally investigate" and discharged an AR-15 inside of a pizzeria.<br /> Fortunately, nobody was injured.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354194&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RV9S2QRQYnvSuojDOxXrjwm2Mc0YanOzZu7Po4SVImo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354194">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354187#comment-1354187" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DrBollocks (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354189" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488118957"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>so many (allegedly different) people arrive here, clutching their pearls, making stirring speeches about censorship, having clearly failed to read (or comprehend) either the original post or the numerous responses.</i></p> <p>Half of them are under the impression that they are delivering their carefully-thought-out messages directly to Google, or to Communist Headquarters, having followed a link through from Mikey's FB page without bothering to read that either.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354189&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vTTbj_0cJPKwXV9pIpYeeJNc6zLyRJ5kewbYbN-7QO4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354189">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354190" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488121652"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Brian Chivis<br /> I have never heard of Natural News, but definitely don’t agree with Google using its power to effectively censor</i></p> <p>Having mastered this level of literary plausibility, has Brian Chivis considered writing Penthouse Letters to the Editor as a career?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354190&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="3mcG3EUG7wTu9av5zwLBov8vHTtTdg3x8QPwlCvxgMM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354190">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354191" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488130031"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Smokey, if you have read the comments from his followers you would see that is a failed operation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354191&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="rphyuOkBIRpcEtaJBGBTjutvdI1XT0gjUsXFXBPkLj8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354191">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354192" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488133982"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The endless stream of loons who do not understand, do not try to understand, refuse to understand or only hear certain trigger words remind me of this old Far Side cartoon:<br /><a href="https://desertdemocrat.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/gary-larson-far-side-cartoon-what-we-say-to-dogs-blah-blah-ginger.jpeg">https://desertdemocrat.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/gary-larson-far-side…</a></p> <p>Enlightenment for them will forever be out of reach.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354192&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="bnGIos61ra1iTpH2T_5j3oIaeXs0Eof38Z2byVRvvJY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">rs (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354192">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354195" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488139788"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Q. What's the difference between Mike Adams and Immanuel Velikovsky.</p> <p>A. Mike Adams has the attention of the RI scientific community in the absence of an original hypothesis/theory.</p> <p>Can someone please explain the ~5,000 likes on facebook?</p> <p>Maybe it is a Velikovsky-like effect?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354195&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8sWsxbjOZ5MsWMKUUiMPbiBYSYqe0qieZaLgd2RqZq4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michael J. Dochniak (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354195">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354196" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488146043"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Half of them are under the impression that they are delivering their carefully-thought-out messages directly to Google, or to Communist Headquarters, having followed a link through from Mikey’s FB page without bothering to read that either.</p></blockquote> <p>"The common talk of the day amongst the Whigs was, that Cope would soon 'cock up the Pretender's beaver.'"</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354196&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vTUJte2PzsxTGNODuSdPJumRqEMvd-7BtEK8kmV6kSg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354196">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354197" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488248919"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>First off, please show me, Adams fans, where in the First Amendment it says you have the right to have your web page/blog/twitter feed wtf-ever indexed by Google, a private company. Second, I have a blog. it's not much, and I never link to it here. Google does not index my blog, because it draws 0 traffic. Finally, for you cement-heads calling Respectful Insolence "Fake News" kindly educate yourself a bit. This is a Blog. It is in which our host, yon lucite box full of blinking lights, writes his OPINIONS on things. It is, in fact, the modern day equivalent of an editorial page. While this does not stop Orac from posting actual news, it does mean that his content (unless listed otherwise) is not news and so cannot be "Fake News". But thanks for playing.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354197&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="-eS_mBdCJQghoopmc14AFPMeLbY8pQ53wdC7DFEWa8s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DLC (not verified)</span> on 27 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354197">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354205" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488316369"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's a pity that you don't plug your blog. I'm always on the lookout for interesting things to read.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354205&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="IfEhp-fyR4tvjYwbilGIbGGckPOoR6gKgwx-1pfesYI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354205">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354197#comment-1354197" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">DLC (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354198" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488257824"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Isnt it funny all other countries use natural cures to fight disease and cure it except the USA...lol and some of you all continue to eat food injected with chemical poisons and here is a man who is telling you about natural cures for all ailments and u dumb idiots believe the man who wrote this dumb article which he is being paid to do cuz he knows the truth as well. Its a proven fact our foods and water contain fluoride and chlorine which are poisons. Ask the FDA why they dont push for vitamins and healthy fruits and want us to stay on killer ?. Everytime somebody speaks the truth they try to discredit them. And yall idiots fall for it thinking our government cares. Lol grow up and visit places outside the usa and u will see that we are being lied to. There are in fact natural cures that cure everything...do your research and stop believing everything on the internet. All of google is controlled by the government and FDA of course they dont want the news out that natural remidies do in fact work...ask yourself when is the last time any one of you been sick...lol ..well i havnt been sick since 2002 because i eat all organic fruits and i see a health care practitioner not a medical doctor...not a medical doctor who is ONLY taught to give me drugs that of course is controlled by the FDA...lol so yall can keep taking your pills and getting your injected flu shots with mercury in it lol...because i have never had a flu shot and never will...im extremly healthy with no concerns at all....they push this on us knowing that these drugs kill us and if we go all natural its hurts them because their profits in the killer pharmaceutical companys will plummet...lol open your eyes fellas...dont believe the news, google etc....its all controlled by the FDA and other government agencies...wake up America....democrats and republicans are the same...vote independent...they are for the people. God bless all of you...stay off presciption drugs and go to your local health food store and change your life...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354198&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="blufIEUikXcRIpaa1LQfTlaxzTYTlrRI3CRYSW5UhjI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jay (not verified)</span> on 27 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354198">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354204" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488316280"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Why, you're absolutely right, salt has chlorine in it and it's lethal!<br /> As for "all other countries", I've been to well over 20 countries in my life, they all use the same medicines and vaccines that we do.<br /> You must be thinking about countries on another planet.<br /> But, the FDA doesn't push fruits, the USDA does, as that's part of their jobs. The NIH also recommends fruits, rather than high sugar snacks.<br /> You also fail to comprehend what government is and what private industry is. Here's a hint, Google stock closed today at $844.93. The government sells bonds, but does not issue stock.<br /> I don't like organic food, I like inorganic food, like rocks. Seriously, grow a brain.<br /> I do take various medications, two blood pressure medications, otherwise my aorta would rupture and that would be extremely unpleasant. Dead kind of unpleasant. I also take hyperthyroid medication, which has quite literally saved both my life and my sanity.</p> <p>But, after reading your words and weighing everything in total, I do strongly suggest that you seek professional mental health care guidance. Your touch with reality is tenuous at best and your rant, for a rant is what you have just provided us with, displays that break with reality quite well.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354204&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="RAC4vCExwFx_jvuN9u4-bZrtSoEQvnaD5e6tlWMQFW4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354204">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354198#comment-1354198" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jay (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354199" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488260786"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Sadly, all Mikey's content seems to be back.</p> <p>Search Google for site:<a href="http://www.naturalnews.com">www.naturalnews.com</a></p> <p>Shame.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354199&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="jdFLAd7jlWMUZhIJn6kzUPREnFKqPLw-H3QmSBFVKs0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rich Scopie (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354199">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354200" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488267120"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Yea, darn it. From NN front page -</p> <blockquote><p> GOOGLE REINSTATES NATURAL NEWS... details developing... your voice was heard!<br /> KEEP SIGNING THIS WHITE HOUSE PETITION (now 62K) to oppose censorship<br /> Health Ranger to issue statement at 11am Central... </p></blockquote> <p>I wonder how Mikey will spin it. Probably 'your voices were heard, and Google crumbled'.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354200&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="u9wZWCXYsLihW6C6LPadmU5r5eRWxt90F6vAeUz-Tnk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Johnny (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354200">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354202" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488284659"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Here is how it happened:<br /> 1. Mike Adams fixed the sneaky redirect<br /> 2. He filed the reconsideration request with Google<br /> 3. Google reviewed it and, yes he had fixed it.<br /> 4. Google relisted the site.</p> <p>Mike Adams just proved he lied to his followers who are too blind to see that.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354202&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="NRRBE3uAGcgzW2ZXMq-auAVwPEULZgNIQaSRAtbamfU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Craig Payne (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354202">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354200#comment-1354200" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Johnny (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354201" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488268382"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Google should have delisted Mke Adams forever! Honestly in the past and still now he still does have some good things to say. HOWEVER he has also badmouthed MANY good people and he has given out false information about many top quality supplement companies to damage their sales and reputations just so he could sell his own products shown in his website! He has gone to the dark side for his own selfish financial gain without a care in the world about hurting others with his big mouth and bad science mixed with lies and misinformation. The real truth is, his readers and followers should not blindly trust him or what he says because he is no longer to be trusted!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354201&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="io1lZKBZZ9YnVCkPprdbLen-jwvJkcCGmMYiUcncwLw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Barry (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354201">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354203" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488288468"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>" I wonder how Mikey will spin it"</p> <p>He's been railing against the mainstream for years and now he can cite this incident to his followers to illustrate how 'corrupt' the mainstream is and how important he is.</p> <p>Brave maverick rebel etc. FIGHTING FOR YOU!!</p> <p>He's hilarious.</p> <p>But try as I might, I haven't been able to ascertain how much he earns from his sites and businesses.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354203&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="ou7wZXcS8sv37LMWifSyz1cWx8n6RO6eOULNKA8AoZA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Denice Walter (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354203">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354206" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488327912"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Jay<br /> Isnt it funny all other countries use natural cures to fight disease and cure it except the USA…</i></p> <p>Some people have very strange and misinformed ideas about what life is like outside the borders of their country state countrytown trailer park.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354206&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="mkDAxEiopcj0EbYNRM3PxXBFWjJq39yDaqoZZbkBURs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354206">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354207" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488328154"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Apologies if Jay is parodying the antivax / Trump stupidity prion disease. Jay's spelling is implausibly good.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354207&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="tjMOMXmx8kT4lzUbRGHbrNu1Bxl6pJMRbiReD8EjCTE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354207">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354208" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488329652"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Waddayaknow. Mike Adams from Natural News is now calling for government regulation of Google, to require them to give notice and an opportunity to fix problems, and to prohibit censorship based on content. More top-down control-- ostensibly in the interests of disseminating "truth." </p> <p>Would these regulations apply to Mike Adams' search engine, Goodgopher--which purports to provide a fair platform for independent media sites? Because my website was deleted from Goodgopher not long after it was listed, without warning or explanation--and I can guarantee there were no sneaky programming tricks behind it. I wonder how many other small independent media sites have been censored by Goodgopher--sites that, on the surface, would appear to be in line with its mission?</p> <p>In a world of complex counterintelligence operations, you've definitely got to dig deeper than the surface to discern the real mission. And it looks like this op by NN is on its way to mission accomplished--with a hat tip to Science Blogs (among others) for their helpful contributions.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354208&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LZZn63boVJt254XVqin-YcpHn6QIcO9YMTbHiSh3qlI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NWO Reporter (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354208">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354209" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488331159"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh, good grief... give it a rest. Adams has now complied with Google's rules and is now searchable. Go to bed, find another cause. This one is done.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354209&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="O5x3F09QMMgnzdZ-j2N_grqPXxfC4S59kdqnl2PyOok"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris (not verified)</span> on 28 Feb 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354209">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354210" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488708689"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This article is all about censorship, and the writer seems happy for this to be a good thing. You might not like what Mike Adams has to say, but I defend his right to say it.</p> <p>There are opposing forces at work. The right is about love and freedom, and the left is about repression and violence. Look at the so-called peace marches. They are anything but.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354210&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="jl39qbQnHIwjSNnq6OUG4hJgnsQBjBCPEjuLWYYZnec"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dave (not verified)</span> on 05 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354210">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354214" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488737909"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Dave's comment bespeaks voluminously of the sheer inability to comprehend simple English.<br /> That's both from the claim of censorship, by a company that is protecting its product's reputation and the most massive misapprehension of what the right and left stand for, successfully getting the concepts fully 180 degrees around.<br /> Indeed, there was never an instance when I've been threatened to be shot by someone on the left, alas, I cannot say the same about those on the right.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354214&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4JdJKCbMtC8rntyoJg69wxTHdJXb3btDxuWSPCXE4sw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 05 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354214">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354210#comment-1354210" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Dave (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354211" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488713718"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>"The right is about love "</p> <p>Citation needed. Seriously.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354211&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vnmowzje7wahAFeUYGmQL7-aksXjfvEGXF0xTCUqFhY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jay (not verified)</span> on 05 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354211">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354212" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488713721"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Dave: "You might not like what Mike Adams has to say, but I defend his right to say it."</p> <p>Perhaps you should try reading the article with comprehension. Or have someone explain to you that Google has rules about not gaming the system.</p> <p>Google delisted him because he violated some of their rules. After he complied with their rules, they put him back in their index.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354212&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Ecu5qzIQUD-YQCiYRGSKChhFje8zMuI0gbjI7ckzjTo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris (not verified)</span> on 05 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354212">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354213" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488714185"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@ Herr Bimler</p> <p>"Apologies if Jay is parodying the antivax / Trump stupidity prion disease. Jay’s spelling is implausibly good"</p> <p>Wot you sayin aboot my speeling! </p> <p>Erm, no that wasn't "me". I know I like a drink at a weekend and that Orac's moderation rules have saved me many a times from when I attempt to post post-clubbing. But I'm never that bad surely?!?</p> <p>"do your research and stop believing everything on the internet". Erm right, after you.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354213&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="4IjutCclelPSyfmmiZ_dosdHT71c96d5YTOe_c0kDHM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jay (not verified)</span> on 05 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354213">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354215" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1488894590"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>The "right" (ie, wrong) wing seems to follow Albert Alligator's philosophic principle:<br /> "I may not understand what you say, but I'll defend to your death my right to deny it."</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354215&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="j5085nvS1VHDzPUvriPQfQpqjpCqKMWoXWr2UMOLoU0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Old Rockin&#039; Dave (not verified)</span> on 07 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354215">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354216" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489372250"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>If you are going to write an article you should stick to the topic and not force us to hear your personal feelings about politics and irrelevant individuals. Ironic how this is tagged fake news, although false news would be more accurate. I was on board with you until you started slurring Milo as an "alt-right" (he's not) troll (which he is self-admittedly), and I realized you are probably some liberal sjw brainwashed cuck. I'm not even for MIlo or everything he is for, but I'm smart enough to know he isn't "alt-right" or very right at all. Alt-right is another fantasy term made up by guilty liberals to try and justify their current nonsense. Judging by this article. I'll be surprised if this comment even makes it to the section. I think I will do a couple showcases of this blog on my Youtube channel, but you won't enjoy the publicity.<br /> Just to note, my only discussion with you will be in the open on this comment section.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354216&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VE2t06790MIHioYlP8JU0T1Y2Jievfz5k6B7tppWVoc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Paul Watson (not verified)</span> on 12 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354216">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354223" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489394105"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Ah. An Infowars/Prison Planet drone called me a "cuck." My life is now complete. :-)</p> <p><a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson">http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Paul_Joseph_Watson</a></p> <p>Funny how you latched on to that one little aside about Milo, whom I hardly mentioned (seven lines out of hundreds) and then only in the course of making fun of how Mike Adams tried to link Milo's downfall to Google's delisting NaturalNews.com. I could easily have excised that paragraph and it wouldn't have affected the meaning of the post much at all. I must say, you guys, for all your bluster about "cuckservatives" and "cucks" and "special snowflakes," are very cold and uniquely crystalline yourselves. Indeed, the most special of the "special snowflakes" that I've observed have been Trump supporters and alt right hacks, who whine to high heaven at the slightest criticism of them or their heroes.</p> <p>In any case, I'm curious. I wrote this three weeks ago, and suddenly there's an influx of new commenters, including you. Where on earth did this appear? Why on earth does it matter any more, given that Adams was listed again by Google mere days after his delisting and is now operating as before the delisting, with no evidence of any lasting harm?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354223&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_tmQ5YCofWsz5LRiVkt72S0uBMUZW8F-IOD0zTXa9VM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354223">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354216#comment-1354216" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Paul Watson (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354241" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489429670"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It's been my experience that whenever someone refers to another as "cuck", that individual is an alt-right moron.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354241&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="MTijexQmzrwCsYyFdE_1MarpFAX2t2pY6ahibp-ZcL0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354241">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354216#comment-1354216" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Paul Watson (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354217" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489390402"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Interesting, because "alt-right" is what many of these people call themselves.</p> <p>Oh, and you'll "showcase" this blog on your Youtube Channel? How scary.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354217&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="WrJLFqNUviBY0AY5aRvttXBfR4nGtQcXgutECu3vjMA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354217">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354222" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489393684"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, if he actually does it, it could become annoying to deal with the likely influx of Infowars readers and followers that will appear here. Indeed, I kind of wonder what happened to bring him and a couple of others here this morning? Did someone post a link to this article somewhere, like on a conspiracy website or something?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354222&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="xxEECU7TzOxNnj1X_jsS6I68E5XTO-Km12Lm_TnSme8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354222">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354217#comment-1354217" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lawrence (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354218" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489392236"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Be fair, Milo isn't "alt-right". He's an out and out fascist.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354218&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="l5viFfEL3AQsduSbvJGNzFB4pS_MwLPnBDqMYA5Qpug"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rebecca Fisher (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354218">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354221" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489393580"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>True that, but the "alt right" is basically fascist, too.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354221&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="vm4q2OIpYVeHdK9tt-R9RBvnmhFnpYUyTgXSzaIa5Eg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354221">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354218#comment-1354218" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rebecca Fisher (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354219" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489393135"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>This is the last time I will ever read anything on this web site. Whether you agree with Adams or not,, to write with such venom is unnecessary and shows the type pf person you are.<br /> In a free society all people have a right to be heard. Although I do not agree with everything Adams says, on vaccines he is absolutely right. We know of several girls damaged for life by the Gardasil shot and a toddler of a friend, in intensive care for a week after the MMR.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354219&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7MNwndVtMp-rGjfmw-30rtK0VKjh34nCoM5FjM9w4zQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">chris morgan (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354219">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354240" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489429597"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>In a free society all people have a right to be heard.</p></blockquote> <p>Here, let me fix this for you to read what you really are saying:<br /> "In a free society all people have a right to be heard, save people who I disagree with, who should just STFU".</p> <p>There, I fixed it for you, now follow your own idiotic advice.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354240&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Ytw0doTjB-oLjAYO8ujZT9xe3JFM_riiX5oX_jiwBvU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354240">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354219#comment-1354219" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">chris morgan (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354220" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489393288"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>If you are going to write an article you should stick to the topic and not force us to hear your personal feelings about politics and irrelevant individuals.</p></blockquote> <p>"Force"? "Us"? A girl named John?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354220&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="h8P08q2WRPzb_-CCJ6Fq_xLj76iZTNu53mPFb6V-ISA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354220">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354224" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489395079"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>It is just so unspeakably cruel of Orac to drag poor delicate Paul Watson in front of a monitor, jam in the eyelid specula and force him to read (which I guess is the same as "hear") an article that offends his exquisitely sensitive feelings. Bad Orac! Bad, bad, Orac!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354224&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Pa3qdQguXzmTBmpDFjPAZ43Tj3HV9nRYaPOju9_cZaE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354224">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354225" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489395189"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I must drop Milo a note to tell him Watson regards him as irrelevant.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354225&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="VZbbnt158Q1PtSAmYNyiXGG7TqgSqi4u3L94Ig4rgXw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">doug (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354225">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354226" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489399591"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@chris morgan #139:</p> <blockquote><p>In a free society all people have a right to be heard.</p></blockquote> <p>Nope, wrong. The right to free speech does not include the right to a platform, the right to be heard or the right to be free of criticism or consequences.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354226&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="trICEP2d2q1a4bh2NHCSQsqUGV5IP4vMo1pJRNDh-ZM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Julian Frost (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354226">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354227" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489407413"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Stirring up controversy and righteous outrage sells, and brings in more followers for everyone. What are the marketing machinations going on behind the scenes here? We're surrounded by niche-celebrity friends masquerading as sworn enemies, with the same powerful forces backing them all from the shadows.</p> <p>Whether or not you agree with Holiday's politics, at least he spells out in this article how we are all being played, all the time--and not just from the direction he mentions. Divide, conquer and sell. In spite of outward appearances, they are all selling the same thing--and the ultimate price is your mind. <a href="http://observer.com/2017/02/i-helped-create-the-milo-trolling-playbook-you-should-stop-playing-right-into-it/">http://observer.com/2017/02/i-helped-create-the-milo-trolling-playbook-…</a></p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354227&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="mBwObAVVI2sRUdqNoA57Xk0m4uBhwdfK3V0x-qJDTwI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">NWO Reporter (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354227">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354228" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489407962"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>In a free society all people have a right to be heard.</i></p> <p>Said every single eedjit who wants Orac to shut up.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354228&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="yNtbY2GQcowld6bB4D_D-qX0qSJj0-TTc0F5TJIzp74"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354228">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354229" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489412209"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Go away Travis Schwochert from Endeavor, Wisconsin.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354229&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wQsntiafXBrIvBLRnaubfDLqjvokCtHxKGuyxacm9YY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354229">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354231" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489413081"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Travis has been dealt with again. I've been deleting all his comments, but I'm wondering if I should leave a few, just as a reminder of how vile he is.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354231&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cJHYjjQKv0084YBBNeiW5SU2sSwCXr-RFQkpUmuOGhc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354231">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354229#comment-1354229" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chris (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354230" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489412754"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Low-dose aluminum adjuvant injections makes mice slow and poisoned: h[]tp://vaccinepapers.org/al-adjuvant-causes-brain-inflammation-behavioral-disorders/</p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/03/30/best-sign-ever/#comment-99495">No</a>, Fucklesworth. Go back to hanging out at the Vapor Genie's* place; I presume you've whomped up a new Disqustink account since that amusing scat-covering incident.</p> <p>* You might note that <b>he</b> doesn't get the same treatment that you do, despite having (had?) a comically stupid aura-of-mystery routine going on, complete with on-again, off-again pluralization. Perhaps you could muse on the reason for this.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354230&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="LFkbok1AWxvbmQQJy0wSJuR5yIF5CY8egTn4Rxr81sU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354230">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354232" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489414671"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Travis has been dealt with again. I’ve been deleting all his comments, but I’m wondering if I should leave a few, just as a reminder of how vile he is.</p></blockquote> <p>Definitely the one where he claims he'll never leave until his personal information is deleted, followed by his <b><i>posting his personal information</i></b>.<br /><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2017/03/13/an-uncomfortable-question-when-you-least-expect-it/comment-page-1/#comment-460104">This one</a>, not so much.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354232&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="_ftfHk9O5U81wz7x-6Ju5shvQE2SBy7YFmfX-vebmDw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354232">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354237" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489419321"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I thought I left that one...</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354237&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="phlJWwAOOFhvRRyjh3Od2D8y_OUuE8WDz3-aEIDladE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354237">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354232#comment-1354232" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354233" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489415509"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Travis has been dealt with again. I’ve been deleting all his comments, but I’m wondering if I should leave a few, just as a reminder of how vile he is</i></p> <p>Yes, for his posterity and success at landing a new job. Which comments; you choose ;)</p> <p>Al</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354233&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="IHsFRkZbfWJgSkwjC-8YOW-qbNiPwADZm6VhDx0hA1w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alain (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354233">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354234" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489416164"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Be fair, Milo isn’t “alt-right”. He’s an out and out fascist.</p></blockquote> <p>I say to-MAY-to and you say to-MAH-to.</p> <p>"Alt-right" is what people call themselves when they basically agree with much of the NSDAP platform but still have just enough of a sense of shame to realize that admitting as much is still frowned upon. They may not want to admit that they're fascists, but as the saying goes, denial ain't just a river in Egypt.</p> <p>I don't know enough about Milo (and at this point really don't care) whether he's openly fascist or pretending not to be fascist.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354234&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="iqnmkPbPoxzkzUzc5I7XpJrE1KfkdzfGNUkxugLBrKA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354234">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354235" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489417605"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>I don’t know enough about Milo (and at this point really don’t care) whether he’s openly fascist or pretending not to be fascist.</p> <p>I'm in the happy position of having never even heard of him until he was past his expiration date.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354235&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="cfburXgwdAtpat3B5Q4qsBIXbGtsU6OOKtX7TZ66Auc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354235">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354236" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489417859"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>^ Jesus Christ, me and the blockquote fails. I've got to wrap up this machine recovery so that some choice of keyboard and monitor aren't 18 inches apart and 50 degrees askew.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354236&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="R4GjYpDD1FNbYS4HKmp3DhewuF-ebvLnwPYvuxoWyZY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Narad (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354236">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354238" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489423390"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>Definitely the one where he claims he’ll never leave until his personal information is deleted, followed by his posting his personal information.</i></p> <p>Antics like that leave me skeptical about the identification of the sock-puppeting nym-stealer. Yes, he has claimed in the past to be Travis S, but he <i>steals identities</i>. Perhaps he is some neghbour who dislikes Travis S. and wants to trash his reputation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354238&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="WCb3b__j86q84vs02WjMECEegDcj29RtD-J96WXpZbQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354238">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354239" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489425110"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>That's an awful lot of effort to trash a neighbor you don't like, when said neighbors aren't even going to see it or know about it.</p> <p>Besides, Travis doesn't have a reputation to trash.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354239&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="w_w2vjPSfLgf321-7g0G7-2o6esZgCho03YrW-Zj6Ac"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354239">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354242" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489434014"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><i>That’s an awful lot of effort to trash a neighbor you don’t like</i></p> <p>Well <b>someone</b> is going to a lot of trouble to make Travis S look like an obsessive creep. Either Travis S (posing as other people) or some unknown person (posing as him posing as other people).</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354242&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Wr7KFuHThubdAnKIqhsd5P2lHeGowFKsuUoOdOs14FU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">herr doktor bimler (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354242">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354243" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489436076"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Perhaps he is some neghbour who dislikes Travis S. and wants to trash his reputation.</p></blockquote> <p>That thought crossed my mind at some point but given he threatened to "out" me if I didn't remove his comments so he could find a job, I don't doubt he's Travis Schwochert. He lost his job as a window washer, somehow I doubt his vile comments are his biggest worry.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354243&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="0DIKznm0YzQE4NQNLBe_YPVE482H2cT2E_gdq3TGb6Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Science Mom (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354243">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354247" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489443112"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Oh, I think it's him. Check the comment that follows to see why.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354247&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="9sMIhlMdLaFRsGLsg4k4Pk14mSuPquk-iwH-QBHCUxs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354247">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354243#comment-1354243" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Science Mom (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354244" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489438390"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@HDB: I suppose it's possible somebody is impersonating Travis impersonating other commenters, but Occam's Razor tells me to prefer the theory that it really is Travis.</p> <p>Consider how easily recognizable his posts are when he tries out a new nym. It takes a pretty good actor to be so consistent in character--few people can pull it off. But if it's just Travis being Travis, that's what you expect. And is the gain this putative third party gets from making Travis look bad worth the risk to his own reputation if he gets caught? IANAL, but I suspect it's actionable if it can be proven. You don't have to ask that question if somebody is (wittingly or otherwise) trashing his own reputation.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354244&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="D03A3WjScibcxKq3SoiMtPZE8l0_bhQYFlQ4GL6f5_s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354244">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="28" id="comment-1354248" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489443737"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Actually, it's not always true that his posts are easily recognizable. I recognize him right away when he's impersonating someone because he's basically scraping the bottom of the barrel with respect to old commenters whose e-mail addresses he can figure out. Either they're people I remember and therefore immediately recognize an impersonation or they're obscure but still recognizable to me. However, when he introduces a new sock, he often posts an innocuous comment, and I don't always spot him the first time. Fortunately, he doesn't take long to reveal himself; so the only time I don't manage to shut him down instantly is when I'm away from the computer or phone too long.</p> <p>Still, what a pathetic life he must live if spending so much time figuring out ways around my moderation here (or Science Mom's moderation at her blog) is such a major form of entertainment for him. Sad.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354248&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="aGGaOQFkUkN_yVbRYr1CzcDXFrtohBVfl7g9XTYVcEU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <a title="View user profile." href="/oracknows" lang="" about="/oracknows" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">oracknows</a> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354248">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/oracknows"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/oracknows" hreflang="en"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/pictures/orac2-150x150-120x120.jpg?itok=N6Y56E-P" width="100" height="100" alt="Profile picture for user oracknows" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354244#comment-1354244" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Eric Lund (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354245" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489441034"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Fucking fucks. You people started with this fucking shit, not me. I can't even defend myself against the Science Whore.</p> <p>Have fun moderating comments for the rest of your life Orac. </p> <p>It's not me trashing my reputation, It's these assholes who are.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354245&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uVbTRDKfnbm3Psyo_heyWvgekuMo-HGArnJ4OSw2A-Q"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Fucking Fucks (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354245">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354282" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489528749"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>It’s not me trashing my reputation, It’s these assholes who are.</p></blockquote> <p>My, is that the same mouth that you french kiss your mother with?!<br /> Here is a hint, you demolish your own reputation with comments like you've been making and your overall behavior.</p> <p>Especially when you start off sounding like me after I caught my fingers between the garage door panels while closing it.<br /> At least, I had an excuse, heavily bruised fingertips. What's your excuse, a bruised ego?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354282&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7BGKmltnL2B_h1typfmsVxtraYt--9rT4ba9q4RU33s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Wzrd1 (not verified)</span> on 14 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354282">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1354245#comment-1354245" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="en"></a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Fucking Fucks (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354246" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489442292"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p> I’ve got to wrap up this machine recovery so that some choice of keyboard and monitor aren’t 18 inches apart and 50 degrees askew.</p></blockquote> <p>Narad, check your email.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354246&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="7IUEVGeTANDlP-i9sI4kgASxG4Gp642cROJONM8B66Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">JP (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354246">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354249" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489443998"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Someone seems to have a great deal of difficulty with cause and effect. Get lost Travis and no one will mention you. It's not as though you are contributing anything substantive.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354249&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="8K1bCW3pR8cMI9QfB8Y1Gf_nO-dbKLO5MOEwI36HLSw"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Science Mom (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354249">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354250" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489444364"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>chris morgan @140</p> <blockquote><p>We know of several girls damaged for life by the Gardasil shot and a toddler of a friend</p></blockquote> <p>Your friend should keep their toddler under control before xe damages more girls.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354250&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Nq2n_7ANCe_l-ZzEFaPZ4U4_RCErDoFoPcRZRp875lU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">MilitantAgnostic (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354250">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354251" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489444750"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Orac</p> <blockquote><p>Ah. An Infowars/Prison Planet drone called me a “cuck.” My life is now complete</p></blockquote> <p>You know who else was a literal "cuck" - Genghis Khan</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354251&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="__XxEziMLgQEG3RT3tyWUdQVfEg4bn60-tQ1aP9_MtM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">MilitantAgnostic (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354251">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354252" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489447133"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Well, if Travis is having trouble finding a job, I imagine the criminal record has as much to do with that as the obnoxious online comments. Given that a prospective employer can read for himself what Travis wrote, it's kinda hard for him to complain.</p> <p>How'd the court case go for fleeing and eluding a police officer go, Travis? Did you take a plea, or get the charges reduced?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354252&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="Nfb6MGrZqngNxGgsToIskTdsjskDNnHYU3BcFelYtgA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Panacea (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354252">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354253" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489447548"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p><b>It’s not me trashing my reputation</b></p> <p>That one I agree :) it's not possible to further trash a reputation so down as to be found on the other side of the planet.</p> <p>Al</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354253&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="oXcl3vEgc-bLwDcHjwrNgRai0QtkLBzRg_dNtHnpLbs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alain (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354253">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354254" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489448854"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>More doxing. I was 16 years old. </p> <p>And I was doing nothing illegal besides drinking beer.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354254&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="KIh0x8DoFucSBWmWx9ar2OejJxOVYUyDcDuUPoA9bDM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="" content="This is bullshit Orac">This is bullsh… (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354254">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354255" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489453062"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>@Science Mom:</p> <blockquote><p>He lost his job as a window washer</p></blockquote> <p>Wait, what? What do you have to do to lose a job as a window washer?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354255&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="QOtYFZVggewJyQB4lUeVJ-BJStIkTEj7Z0kaKPDz72w"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Julian Frost (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354255">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354256" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489454136"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>Julian@169,</p> <p>Idle speculation based on comments 160 and 167, I'd bet a few quatloos on peeing on the windows of an irate customer and fleeing the scene upon witnessing the cops...</p> <p>That said, I'd love to find out the court docket, any link Panacea?</p> <p>Alain</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354256&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="uM5VrxiOIgPntQ7iVh-1zh2cETeevO733kZ68OUQpnA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alain (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354256">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354257" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489454700"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><p>High-rise window cleaning, with ropes. It's actually kinda cool.</p> <p>Now I was fired for irking the asshole owner. He was a psycho-asshole and I couldn't stand him.</p> <p>Now for fleeing the cops, I was 16 and the only thing I was doing illegal was drinking beer.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1354257&amp;1=default&amp;2=en&amp;3=" token="wIn-Su311Pfxxnc3-Q4Ez26ByccKvHfbVsSQgd3nS2A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> <footer> <em>By <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cain (not verified)</span> on 13 Mar 2017 <a href="https://www.scienceblogs.com/taxonomy/term/733/feed#comment-1354257">#permalink</a></em> <article typeof="schema:Person" about="/user/0"> <div class="field field--name-user-picture field--type-image field--label-hidden field--item"> <a href="/user/0" hreflang="und"><img src="/files/styles/thumbnail/public/default_images/icon-user.png?itok=yQw_eG_q" width="100" height="100" alt="User Image" typeof="foaf:Image" class="img-responsive" /> </a> </div> </article> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1354283" class="js-comment comment-wrapper clearfix"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1489529012"></mark> <div class="well"> <strong></strong> <div class="field field--name-comment-body field--type-text-long field--label-hidden field--item"><blockquote><p>Now I was fired for irking the asshole owner. He was a psycho-asshole and I couldn’t stand him.</p></blockquote> <p>What'ya do to irk Trump? ;)</p> <blockquote><p>Now for fleeing the cops, I was 16 and the only thing I was doing illegal was drinking