Quote of the Day - 31 December 2006

Here's a good New Year's quote, from the first season of The West Wing:

Toby: It's not the new millennium, but I'll just let it drop.

Sam: It is.

Toby: It is not the new millennium. The year 2000 is the last year of the millennium, it's not the first year of the next one.

Sam: But the common sensibility, to quote Stephen Jay Gould--

Toby: Stephen Jay Gould needs to look at a calendar.

Sam: Gould says this is a largely un-resolveable issue.

Toby: Yeah, it's tough to resolve. You have to look at a calendar.

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Sorry, Professor Gould, but I was always inclined to agree with Toby. Just as I thought it would be a pity to deny the year 2000 (twenty-hundred) to the 20th century, it seemed to me that a millennium deserved its nice round-number cap. But Y2K was too exciting and people couldn't wait. Gould probably cared more for the "common sensibility" than I do.

So that means that I, born in 1960, was born in the 50's.

Cool. Grease is the Word.

"So that means that I, born in 1960, was born in the 50's."

... And I won't be in my '40s' until I'm 41? I'm sold!

Ick, no the first decade was only 9 years, long. OK, I gues you could make a argument, but do you really want to sound older than you are?

GMH, nope you were not one year old until you have lived for 365.2425 days.

The problem stems fron the Romans, they did not have a concept of zero as a number. So, we went from 1 BC to 1 AD, skipping year aero. Please don't anyone start they, "Yea, but surely they understood having nothing". It is two very different concepts, and I don't want to get into explaining how much more zero is then nothing.

GMH, the difference being that a child is in its first year until the day of its first birthday (anniversary of birth, celebrating the completion of 1 year). Then it is in its second year of life. It is also in its first decade, first century and for what it is worth, first millenium. If you are in your first year, then you are zero years old..

This is not the case for the definition of our era. It goes -2,-1,1,2. In its favour, this is symmetrical around a zero point.

Unfortunately, you were in your 40th year as soon as you had your 39th birthday and are now already in your 41st year.

By JohnnieCanuck (not verified) on 31 Dec 2006 #permalink

If you are in your first year, then you are zero years old..

That's true for the first six months, after which you are 1 year old, to the nearest year.

Try using the rounding argument for any situation like voting, driver's licence, or buying cigarettes or alcohol.

Cop: You're 19, eh? When did you turn 19?
Kid: Oh, in about 5 months from now. You understand rounding up, don't you?

:-{}

By JohnnieCanuck (not verified) on 06 Jan 2007 #permalink

How is "Look at the Calender" an answer? How many calenders listed the millenium? Just looking at the date is the problem, not the solution!