Five Things You Must Not Do During Totality At The Solar Eclipse (Synopsis)

"Yes, I am well aware that nature -- or what we call nature: that totality of objects and processes that surrounds us and that alternately creates us and devours us -- is neither our accomplice nor our confidant." -Octavio Paz

For most of us heading to the path of totality, we're in for an incredible experience. If we get clear skies, it will take roughly an hour for the Moon to pass in front of the Sun's disk completely, and after that we'll get just over two minutes of totality: an experience like no other. Yet if you're not careful -- or if you get too excited about one particular thing -- you might miss the best parts.

Messing around with photography is a great way to miss the incredible sights, sounds, and experiences of a total solar eclipse. Unless you've experienced enough total eclipses that you don't mind missing one, leave photography to the pros. Image credit: Beawiharta/Reuters.

A lot of photography enthusiasts are planning to capture the eclipse on film (or digitally), but that may be a very poor decision. Others are planning on using binoculars to get a better view of the corona, but that has extreme dangers. Others aren't sure whether they need their eclipse glasses or what all the things they should look for and try to experience are. But there are too many scientists passionate about getting the right information out there to let this event go by without sharing that knowledge and wonder with the world.

A panorama of the 2012 solar eclipse shows a region of darkness in the night sky, surrounded by the bright region where the Moon's eclipse shadow does not land. Image credit: Jan Sladecek; Miloslav Druckmuller.

There will be an awful lot to take in during those moments of total darkness, and there's no substitute for knowing what to expect. Here are five pitfalls you must avoid.

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I think you may want to add a caveat to #2. You can take your glasses off and look at the sun at totality only if you're in the narrow region of the country where the eclipse is total. The further off that path you are, the less safe it is. The vast majority of Americans going out to look at the eclipse will not be in that region. Thus for them, "take off glasses during maximum" is not good advice.

I think where I am I'll get to 90% or 80% coverage. My glasses will stay on.

Isn't this a golden opportunity to retest the bending of light experiment especially with our modern state-of-the-art equipment rather then depend on Eddington's fuzzy, inconclusive pictures taken with primitive equipment?

By Kasim Muflahi (not verified) on 14 Aug 2017 #permalink

That's some weird definition of "synopsis".

Vague, regurgitated hash off other sites. Yawn!

By Brian Bassett (not verified) on 14 Aug 2017 #permalink

@# 5
The title of this session is 'Mostly Mute Monday' in 200 words or less.The warnings are always going to be the same regarding eclipses. As Eric #1 has noted, off axis warnings also need to be in place.
It may seem like dog barf to you, but consider how many people get blinded by the light.

@Kasim Muflahi#2: The bending of light experiment has been repeated many times since Eddington's day. Astronomers from Lick Observatory went to Australia for the 1922 eclipse and repeated the observations. It was done again during an eclipse in 1952 by Yerkes Observatory astronomers who travelled all the way to Khartoum, Sudan to see it. In 1973, astronomers from the University of Texas went to the Chinguetti Oasis in Mauritania to do the same thing. Each time they found results reasonably consistent with General Relativity. It seems people are going to try to do the same thing with this upcoming eclipse. NASA has even given instructions on how to do it:

Donald Bruns for one is going to give it a try:…

By Anonymous Coward (not verified) on 14 Aug 2017 #permalink

Thanks for the update because all I hear in the forums I frequent is reference to Eddington's expedition. It's nice to know that even amateurs are jumping on the bandwagon but they're doing with the premise that Einstein's General Relativity is right BEFORE they've done the experiment. They should go there with an open mind so that they can spot a mistake if there is one. Otherwise, they won't spot it.

By Kasim Muflahi (not verified) on 15 Aug 2017 #permalink

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"Vague, regurgitated hash off other sites. Yawn!"
I am guessing this attitude is called intellectual snob :-)

There is already a lot of other good evidence that General Relativity is correct by the way. If you have ever used a GPS app to navigate you are able to pinpoint your precise location only because the designers of the GPS system took the predictions of Special and General Relativity into account. When GPS was first designed, some engineers felt that noticeable time dilation due to the relative motion of the satellites (special relativistic effect) and gravity (general relativistic effect) would not occur, so they launched the first satellite without taking this into account. However, they observed the 38 µs per day time dilation predicted by SR and GR, which would cause a navigational fix to become false after only two minutes, and errors would accumulate at the rate of 10 km per day, rendering the whole system worthless for navigation in short order. Subsequent satellites and GPS receivers compensated for the gravitational and special relativistic effects, which is why it works so well.

By Anonymous Coward (not verified) on 15 Aug 2017 #permalink


I am curious. Why would the result of an objective measurement be different based on the mindset of the person making the measurement? Either light bends in a way that is quantitatively correct according to relativity or it does not. Why would the belief of the measurer play any role?

Let's ask Madonna.
Kasim: Madonna, what's the objectivity of vision?
Madonna: Your eyes will see what you want them to see.

You see, prior belief colours what you see and perceive.

By Kasim Muflahi (not verified) on 16 Aug 2017 #permalink

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Sean T:

I am curious. Why would the result of an objective measurement be different based on the mindset of the person making the measurement?
I don't support Kasim's anti-relativist kookery, but when humans are involved in a measurement yes unconscious bias can skew the results. Still rather than Kasim's suggestion of trying to have humans magically become less biased, the trick is to blind the data analysis so the humans interpreting the results don't know when they're looking at real observational data or test data (designed to have a mix of relativsitc and non-relativistic observations in it).. If their interpretation of the test data matches how it was designed, you can probably trust that their analysis of the actual results is unbiased. OTOH if they get the test data wrong, you don't want to trust their analysis of the experimental data either.

I don't disagree with the bending of light by gravity because gravity exists. What I don't agree with is the interpretation put on it i.e. that it's due to the curvature of spacetime.

How do lenses bend light? or how do stereoisomers bend light. For the last 2 questions, it's the electromagnetic fields of the molecular orbitals interacting with those of the photons.

It could be that the photons of starlight are interacting with the electromagnetism of the gravitational field created by the large mass such as the sun.

By Kasim Muflahi (not verified) on 16 Aug 2017 #permalink

It could be that the photons of starlight are interacting with the electromagnetism of the gravitational field created by the large mass such as the sun.

Prisms bend light at the interfaces due to the large refractive index difference between the glass and the air. I could be wrong, but I'm betting there isn't much of a refractive index difference between interstellar space and 'in-solar system' space.

I'm also willing to bet that when scientists test for GR, they do their best to account for all such effects and GR is concluded because after you take such effects into account, there is still additional bending that is not predicted or explained by NM, only by GR.

eric, I agree with you. But science has a lot of holes in it. I even agree with the numbers that GR predicts. But, I say again, it's the interpretation put on it. It may not be the curvature of spacetime.

NM was developed before field theory was and before we knew about electromagnetism. And I suspect that results Einstein got were due to inclusion of the latest findings at the time.

There reason why I can't accept curvature of spacetime is that, in order for mass to bend spacetime at a distance, its influence should be communicated to the distant spacetime at the speed of light. This implies that mass radiating something physical which we call a gravitational field where it would have equipotentials with perpendicular forces we call the gravitational force. The field would be quantised like the EM field so would be different from that described by GR.

Another reason I'm suspicious of science is that legitimate forces have fields emanating from sources; equipotentials withe force perpendicular to the equipotentials. But the weak and strong forces neither have a field nor a source - they somehow exist as independent entities.

So, numbers are correct but the explanation attached to them are dubious.

By Kasim Muflahi (not verified) on 16 Aug 2017 #permalink

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I fully understand the tendency toward bias in measurement. My question is why Kasim or anyone else would think that scientists WANT to just blindly confirm relativity. Finding a result that is in opposition to the established paradigm is the surest way to notoriety in the scientific community, and is the way science advances. Any scientist worth his salt would be overjoyed to find a robust experimental result that withstands scrutiny by the scientific community. I don't understand why antirelativity looks think otherwise.

Sean T,

There's good science to be done when operating within a paradigm. One example would be to reduce the size of the experimental error bars; Eddington's were large, subsequent observations' were smaller, thus increasing the experimental corroboration of the theory.

All I can say to Kasim Muflahi's other responses is to quote Carl Sagan: "The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counter-intuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true."

By Anonymous Coward (not verified) on 16 Aug 2017 #permalink

Absolutely true. The curvature of spacetime may have nothing to do with the truth. Just because it's counter-intuitive doesn't mean it's true. It's also an interpretation of the prediction of GR.

By Kasim Muflahi (not verified) on 17 Aug 2017 #permalink

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I do NOT understand this, but being 13 doesn't mean that I'll know it.This is one interesting subject I should be learning about.

By Takaia PJ Vano (not verified) on 20 Aug 2017 #permalink

Now that I have properly read all your comments on this, are you guys scientest or something?

By Takaia PJ Vano (not verified) on 20 Aug 2017 #permalink

Of course, John. I am not minimizing the value of the work done by scientists operating within a consensus paradigm. I am merely stating that the finding of results that conflict with the accepted paradigm is something that just about every scientist would regard as the pinnacle of his or her career as a scientist.

The anti-science kooks always claim that scientists are fighting tooth and nail to maintain the status quo. I was just pointing out that nothing could be farther from the truth.

The only difference is that real scientists actually know what it takes to overthrow an accepted paradigm and don't just assume from a single anomalous observation that they've succeeded. Reference the FTL neutrino observations from CERN as an example. An anti-science kook would have stated that these results proved relativity wrong. Real scientists in this case worked very hard to show that their results were in error. That is generally the best way to show a result valid, namely do everything possible to show that the result is not valid. Then if you fail to invalidate the result, the result MAY be valid. Kooks skip this step all the time, but to their credit, despite their desire to present a result that would imply new physics, the CERN scientists actually did this step and found their error.

Sean T:

My question is why Kasim or anyone else would think that scientists WANT to just blindly confirm relativity

Belief protection. Either scientists disagree with him because his argument is poor...or because they have some ulterior motive for doing so. But the former is psychologically upsetting, so he concludes it must be the latter.


Now that I have properly read all your comments on this, are you guys scientest or something?

Some are, some aren't. Welcome and feel free to ask questions!