The 'fitness' news this week has been all about STEROIDS!
Pals went on a grand adventures with an anti-aging wooer (Train Wreck 1, Train Wreck 2, Train Wreck 3-- holy crap!).
Well, dont feel bad, Pal. There is no question in my mind that this guy 'has issues', because I get 'Life Extension' magazine. The guy who lived in my apt before me got it, and he never changed his address. 'Life Extension' is a beautiful glossy magazine that sells pages and pages and pages of snake oil and vitamins. Theyll have an article on how to 'REVERSE mitochondrial damage!!', then 3 pages later, there are full page ads for all the supplements mentioned in their 'article'.
And I know what 'Life Extensions' position on steroids are.
Thus I dont believe, in the slightest, that Dr. Crisler doesnt prescribe HGH for anti-aging "testosterone deficiency" **WINK!**. Partially because of his affiliation with 'LE', but also because he has.
I have serious doubts, independent of Pals observations, that this has anything to do with prescribing hormones for real medical deficiencies.
Then we have Mark McGuire, who recently came out of the steroid-closet.
I dont care if Mark McGuire used steroids. I dont care if anyone uses steroids. Ive stated before, if its perfectly legal for me to go under the knife getting breast implants and a nose job and lipo tomorrow, if I want-- procedures that could kill me and are troublesome to reverse-- why cant someone else do a physician-guided cycle of steroids for cosmetic purposes?
I also dont care if the NFL/MLB/NHL/whatever say its against their rules to use them, and they kick out people who break that rule. Their clubs, their rules.
What pisses me off, is that Mark McGuire denied he used steroids.
Alllll those kids out there, thinking if they work hard enough, if they eat right, if they exercise right, they can look like Mark McGuire.
They cant. Unless they use steroids.
So when they fail, they think its because of their own personal failings. They didnt work hard enough. They dont have 'the right genetics'.
That pisses me off.
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I don't need steroids, I'm already a serious man mountain.
THANK YOU ! ! !
You claim to be a graduate student but don't seem to know the difference between steroids and HGH. You use the terms interchangeably. The LEF does not advocate the use of anabolic steroids, which are synthetic drugs. But by all means keep reading their excellent magazine - you might learn something.
Both steroids and HGH are anabolic agents, and artificial HGH is no less "synthetic" than steroids are. Regardless, there is no science behind the claims that it can stop aging, which is what I see Abbie talking about.
Jeff - Fail
Abby don't hold back tell us how you really feel. Really we need to end the cult of celeberty we seem to be stuck with.
Exactly right, you only need to look at the figures showing the massive increase in young men diagnosed with anorexia/bulimia/BDD in the last few years.
You see it constantly in the media today, hell it was years before Arnie admitted to having used them and considering what he said he was using I have my doubts whether or not this was the whole story.
Just to clarify, I don't think Z is referring to Abby's dog...
I agree that steroids should be legal for "cosmetic" purposes for exactly the reason described.
But I have to admit that I do like one side effect of the illegal status of steroids: we often DO learn when athletes use them. If they were legal, an athlete could conceivably use HIPAA as a shield to keep that quiet. I think that would be far more detrimental to kids than the annual "O no, the big-time athlete used roids!" story.
Jeff: "You claim to be a graduate student but don't seem to know the difference between steroids and HGH. You use the terms interchangeably. The LEF does not advocate the use of anabolic steroids, which are synthetic drugs."
1. Where exactly did she use the terms interchangeably? I don't see it.
2. So you can tell the difference between a steroid that has been synthesized in vitro and one that was extracted from an animal. Pray tell, how?
So tell the kids that they should assume that MLB players are using steroids, and tell them they're terrible role models. There's a good reason the player's union won't allow mandatory steroid or HGH screening.
@OrleanderTea:
But if they were legal, all the pharmaceutical companies would want you to know who was using what. There'd be sponsorship deals, and steroid brand-names plastered across athelete's chests!
The thing is, he didn't *exactly* deny it; he did admit to using androstenedione, which was legal at the time but is a prodrug for testosterone, essentially an anabolic steroid pushed one back in the metabolic cycle. I was somewhat confused as to why the recent revelation qualified as news.
Poor peter. He can dish it out but he just can't take it. Train wreck indeed.
Wow. You attacked Dr. Crisler's "good name" but haven't drawn any of his "cavemen" yet. I was really looking for a good conversation here.
First of all, you obviously know nothing about this subject, therefore you should not be writing about it. NO ONE prescribes rHGH for a "testosterone deficiency".
Second, Dr. Crisler said that he does not prescribe HGH (present), he did not say that he has never prescribed it (past). If you actually did some research on this prior to posting your drivel you would have known that. But then that would take a tad bit of effort on your part to be a responsible journalist now wouldn't it? Once again you science bloggers are making yourselves look like jackasses.
As for Mark McGuire....who cares. Everyone knows he was using.
Jackass?
I am a mule, good sir, and you will address me as such if you wish to continue posting on this Very Serious Blag.
Hey, boyz, you're canoeing buddy pwnd you again.
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"why cant someone else do a physician-guided cycle of steroids for cosmetic purposes?" Nice take on this. I'd stress the part "physician-guided". Heck, black market steroids are sending so many new bodybuilders in a spiraling healthy cycle!
Mark Martinez,
creatine vs steroids have your say
I think that the answer is to give them *more* gear! Then let them fight it out in a cage for our amusement. Oh, hang on - that's called the UFC, right?