Alas, my work emvironment was assimilated by the Borg a few years back. Instead of the intuitive, cooperative, versatile Frame (which I had been using for 10 years, including my Masters dissertation), I now have to struggle daily with clunky, bloated MS-Word, which continually seems to think (wrongly!) that it knows what I'm trying to do, and in which finding out how to do what I really want requires navigation of the largely useless Help system, and/or random mousing through endless menus and forms.
I did my masters in Frame as well, along with doing university handbooks and various policy manuals. What gets me is that back in 1986 I could place graphics in Frame and have them stay where I put them, so cross references and indices with ease, and apply all kinds of useful styles. Word stillc an't do any of these things. And the final version, 6, had sideheads and the best table editor out there. And it saved HTML, PDF, and XML. Then Adobe bought it, and that was the end for Mac OS. And there's nothing to replace it.
If Endnote's functionality was fully available in other word processors (as it once was for Frame, via MIF), I'd have no Microsoft products on my hard disk at all.
John, and others,
If any of you find anything that will work on OS X, with Endnote or another similar program, (that can search the ISI network and all that) without having to use Word or any MS program, the community will be eternally gratefull for your spreading of that information.
Have any of you played with Pages? Aside from the Endnote problem, is it a useful product? Are there any open source (i.e. X11-type) solutions aside from OpenOffice that are useful?
I'm not familiar with Frame, but is it OS X compatible? (There is no OS 9 on my new Mac, nor can it even run it.) What are the advantages? I had a hell of a time with Word on my own thesis. Thank goodness I was able to use the electronic (PDF) submission process. Macs make that part very easy.
I'm still looking. TeX (LaTeX and OzTeX and the like) are pretty good, and there is BibTeX for references, but they lack the ease of EndNote, and there's a major learning curve. I like OpenOffice (I use NeoOffice, which is a Java port that uses the Mac interface) but to use Endnote, you need to export to RTF and that format is problematic.
Pages is still pretty limited, and has a massive memory footprint. One day it might be useful.
Frame is not OS X. Adobe orphaned it for Mac when they bought it. Back in the day, it had no peer.
Alas, my work emvironment was assimilated by the Borg a few years back. Instead of the intuitive, cooperative, versatile Frame (which I had been using for 10 years, including my Masters dissertation), I now have to struggle daily with clunky, bloated MS-Word, which continually seems to think (wrongly!) that it knows what I'm trying to do, and in which finding out how to do what I really want requires navigation of the largely useless Help system, and/or random mousing through endless menus and forms.
I did my masters in Frame as well, along with doing university handbooks and various policy manuals. What gets me is that back in 1986 I could place graphics in Frame and have them stay where I put them, so cross references and indices with ease, and apply all kinds of useful styles. Word stillc an't do any of these things. And the final version, 6, had sideheads and the best table editor out there. And it saved HTML, PDF, and XML. Then Adobe bought it, and that was the end for Mac OS. And there's nothing to replace it.
If Endnote's functionality was fully available in other word processors (as it once was for Frame, via MIF), I'd have no Microsoft products on my hard disk at all.
John, and others,
If any of you find anything that will work on OS X, with Endnote or another similar program, (that can search the ISI network and all that) without having to use Word or any MS program, the community will be eternally gratefull for your spreading of that information.
Have any of you played with Pages? Aside from the Endnote problem, is it a useful product? Are there any open source (i.e. X11-type) solutions aside from OpenOffice that are useful?
I'm not familiar with Frame, but is it OS X compatible? (There is no OS 9 on my new Mac, nor can it even run it.) What are the advantages? I had a hell of a time with Word on my own thesis. Thank goodness I was able to use the electronic (PDF) submission process. Macs make that part very easy.
Yours hopefully,
Mike
I'm still looking. TeX (LaTeX and OzTeX and the like) are pretty good, and there is BibTeX for references, but they lack the ease of EndNote, and there's a major learning curve. I like OpenOffice (I use NeoOffice, which is a Java port that uses the Mac interface) but to use Endnote, you need to export to RTF and that format is problematic.
Pages is still pretty limited, and has a massive memory footprint. One day it might be useful.
Frame is not OS X. Adobe orphaned it for Mac when they bought it. Back in the day, it had no peer.